My First Swiss 06/24
 

Good Mornin All

Well i got lucky at a local shop.
Picked up a Swiss 06/24 ( my first ) and a first variation AC41 P38 that is fully matching

The Swiss looks in great shape no import or P mark

Sorry about the pics camera shutter is having issues time for another one

The Grips are both numbered and match each other but not to the Pistol :( all other serialized parts match

Couple questions
Is ther a S/N to Mfg Year list available( it's in the 19000range)?
The Toggle is not knurled, I had read some transitional Lugers have been found that have 06/29 parts, or could there be another explanation?

Of course other comments and questions are always welcomed

Good day,
That is a nice find.

It was not until 1918 that the Swiss were able to begin production, with the first deliveries of Bern manufactured 1906 Parabellums being met in 1919.

My copy of 'The Borchardt Luger Pistols', on page 651, tells me that serial numbers 18751 - 20880 were produced in 1922, so that range includes your Luger.

Stay safe
Richard

I always do this and I am going to do it again...There ain't no such thing as a 06/24 Swiss.. As Richard has pointed out, Swiss production began in 1918, not 1924. Fred Datig got the wrong date information back in the 1950s from a Swiss individual that didn't know what he was talking about, and we have been stuck with that designation ever since. It is a "1906 Waffenfabrik Bern" or a "1906 W+F" if you prefer, but not 06/24.
(Nice looking gun by the way. Well done.)
Ron

rpbcps is correct that the year of manufacture is 1922.

Ron is also correct that it's a 1906 W+F or P'06 W+F as Gortz & Sturgess call it.

The receiver stop lug on your Luger should have the last three digits of the serial number stamped on it and the last two digits on the rear toggle link and small parts.

You have a very nice Swiss Luger. Enjoy it.

Nice way to start a LUGER collection!

Thank You All
I'm pretty happy with my 1906 W+F ;)

The Lug and Toggle do have the S/N's and match

Any toughts on why the Toggle would not be knurled?
I would think 1922 would be to early for a Transitional


Thanks Again everyone!

The toggle has been replaced post-1929. It is not uncommon to see them, and the factory repair process is well documented.

As Gerben mentions, repair and refurbishment was common in Swiss Lugers.

When an officer retired, they had the option to acquire their service firearm, and in that process they could have it completely refurbished by the arsenal.

Thank You All Again

Would they put a re-arsenal mark on the Pistol somewhere if they had

Makes sense that it has been as the finish looks fantastic, and the bore is pristine

Not a chance i'll look that good at nearly 100 ;)

I have not seen any rebuild marks from Bern. They generally stamp a 6mm "P" sometimes with year of privatization.

The arsenal work is very high grade.

Here is the 'P' mark on my Bern 06/29.

Thanks for the info

No "P" on mine also no Import Mark that I could find

The fit and finish on the Pistol is absolutely beutiful

There is no "P" on my 1906 Waffenfabrik Bern either, I checked that at the same time as checking the Bern 06/29.

reqquest for Swiss Luger manufacturing timeline info
 

I am about to receive my 3rd Luger pistol, a Swiss and I'm in "want" to learn everything I can about the Swiss production/improvements/changes thru their production history

I'd like to know if there are any on-line written or youtube links available that can be accessed and, if so, would "someone" here be kind enough to reply and post those links here

thanks for your consideration

An excellent book is "Parabellum A Technical History of Swiss Lugers by Vittorio Bobba (1996). It is written in Swiss and English. Bill

thanks for the info Bill Lyon - so far I've seen very little ref the Swiss Luger on-line - best I've found have been on this forum, in response to questions submitted by new members

I was hoping to find a time line of the Swiss production, including changes and approvements in design but can't seem to find anything dedicated to the Swiss Lugers

Parabellum A Technical History of Swiss Lugers by Vittorio Bobba (1996) is what you want. It was written in two languages Italian / English side by side.

It's still available, but surprisingly expensive ($1,600 ??).

There is also Fred Datig's "MONOGRAPH IV: The Swiss Variations 1897 - 1947", which is more like $50. I bought mine here from another collector.

thank you Mac Cat, from just up the road from you - in Mineola.....yes, not THAT inquisitive that I'd put out $1600 for a book - and even $50 would be pushing it for me - not that I'm a cheap skate but "free" information would be good