front sight height question?

DAVID · 05-31-2001, 07:44 PM

My .30 cal with fixed sights shoots 8 inches high at 20 yards. If I rebarrel another pistol with a 6 in. barrel and use the standard sight it appears that it would also shoot high. Would the use of the so called navy barrel with the higher sight block correct this??

BILL · 05-31-2001, 08:37 PM

David, the higher your front sight, the higher your point of impact will be (unless I have been doing it wrong all my life).

John D. · 05-31-2001, 08:44 PM

The higher the front sight - the LOWER the point of impact. The higher the REAR sight - the HIGHER the Point of impact...

I think thats what you meant - right????!!!

BILL · 05-31-2001, 09:06 PM

John D. · 05-31-2001, 09:12 PM

I won't tell a single person about this - that's why I whispered it to you...

BILL · 05-31-2001, 09:15 PM

John D. · 05-31-2001, 09:19 PM

They are outstanding..!! While I don't own one (yet!) - I'm planning my strategy on which pieces I want to go after..

BUT - don't ever tell anyone I said any of this (especially on the Luger Forum!!), OK???!!!

BILL · 05-31-2001, 09:22 PM

Thor · 05-31-2001, 10:18 PM

John, how about a parallel forum with the same type of format as Dok's excellent Luger forum, the same participants we all know and love (well like anyway) but hi lighting P.38s! You have the Computer savy and obviously the PASSION and the hardware to run one. As you learn and buy Marvin, GT, Frank, Thor, Dok and others (go look at the people in the user profiles that collect them) we could really make this thing move and give us a place to move all this OT P.38 Chatter! Just a......little thought that......just crossed my pea brain! WHATYA THINK? thor

BILL · 05-31-2001, 10:22 PM

Most of us will frequent both, I am sure..I know I would.

Thor · 05-31-2001, 10:24 PM

It would be good to separate the two and as you can see there is LOTS of interest! I think the two sites could compliment each other, the "Dok & John" Show!! Thor

Marvin · 06-01-2001, 05:19 AM

WOOOOOW, a P.38 Forum; that would be fun. The only other Forum that has this is the Gun & Knife Forums at present. It gets some postings, but the Luger Forum they have is sort of slow. This is the Priemier Luger Forum from what I know now, maybe there could be a Priemier P.38 Forum too. This si really something to think about. The P.38 seems to have increased in activity lately amd the prices are climbing slowely. The "cyq" P.38s are now getting close to the Walther and Mauser prices for the common pistols. Just my thoughts on this subject too.

Marvin

John D. · 06-01-2001, 06:49 AM

OK - I'm *only thinking out loud here!!!*...

Yes - I do have the servers, programs Internet connections, etc... HOWEVER, that being said - this site *would not exist* without DOK's dedication in maintaining it... Dok provides the "sizzle" that make it what it is, to be honest..

So - yes - I'd be willing to help assist in the preliminary programming (do the web board, classifieds, etc. programming) - but we'd need some/a volunteer(s) to help manage/maintain/moderate it....

Thoughts, comments????

06-01-2001, 10:33 AM

Front sights came in three standard heigths, differing by .1mm.... the difference is noticable on the flange section above the dovetail. The shortest sight has no flange and the highest has a relatively thick flange... Tom Heller would know more obout this, but it seems that even if you had the shortest, and went to the highest, your gun would still shoot high...

just my 2 cents, fgr

Artsi · 06-02-2001, 05:06 AM

Hi !

David, I thought I'd let you know that you're not alone on this.

I'll be using my non number matching P08 in competitions. It had a non original 120mm long barrel (equals about 4 3/4 inches) that shot just fine. I'm having it rebarreled as we speak. (I realized too late that the barrel does not comply with the roolbook so I have to swap it to a 4" barrel).

My 'gunsmith' already took my shooter to a range and it shot about 6" to 8" too high at about 20meters. My smith will 'cut & paste' present front sight to make it taller.

- Artsi

06-02-2001, 11:27 PM

I am for a P38 forum as I collect both the Luger and P38.

Bob

05-31-2001, 07:44 PM	#1
DAVID User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Debary, FL. Posts: 129 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	front sight height question? My .30 cal with fixed sights shoots 8 inches high at 20 yards. If I rebarrel another pistol with a 6 in. barrel and use the standard sight it appears that it would also shoot high. Would the use of the so called navy barrel with the higher sight block correct this??

05-31-2001, 08:37 PM	#2
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: front sight height question? David, the higher your front sight, the higher your point of impact will be (unless I have been doing it wrong all my life).

05-31-2001, 08:44 PM	#3
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	(Pssst - hey Bill??? ) The higher the front sight - the LOWER the point of impact. The higher the REAR sight - the HIGHER the Point of impact... I think thats what you meant - right????!!!

05-31-2001, 09:06 PM	#4
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yep, (don't tell anyone..can I keep the trophies?) (EOM)

05-31-2001, 09:12 PM	#5
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	(Course you can keep the trophies..!! Also... I won't tell a single person about this - that's why I whispered it to you...

05-31-2001, 09:15 PM	#6
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	uhmm..how 'bout them P-38s.. (EOM)

05-31-2001, 09:19 PM	#7
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	YOU HAVE to check them out..!!! They are outstanding..!! While I don't own one (yet!) - I'm planning my strategy on which pieces I want to go after.. BUT - don't ever tell anyone I said any of this (especially on the Luger Forum!!), OK???!!!

05-31-2001, 09:22 PM	#8
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	nary a word, mon ami.. (EOM)

05-31-2001, 10:18 PM	#9
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: The Trap is sprung! P38s John, how about a parallel forum with the same type of format as Dok's excellent Luger forum, the same participants we all know and love (well like anyway) but hi lighting P.38s! You have the Computer savy and obviously the PASSION and the hardware to run one. As you learn and buy Marvin, GT, Frank, Thor, Dok and others (go look at the people in the user profiles that collect them) we could really make this thing move and give us a place to move all this OT P.38 Chatter! Just a......little thought that......just crossed my pea brain! WHATYA THINK? thor

05-31-2001, 10:22 PM	#10
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Trap is sprung! P38s Most of us will frequent both, I am sure..I know I would.

05-31-2001, 10:24 PM	#11
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: The Trap is sprung! P38s It would be good to separate the two and as you can see there is LOTS of interest! I think the two sites could compliment each other, the "Dok & John" Show!! Thor

06-01-2001, 05:19 AM	#12
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Trap is sprung! P38s WOOOOOW, a P.38 Forum; that would be fun. The only other Forum that has this is the Gun & Knife Forums at present. It gets some postings, but the Luger Forum they have is sort of slow. This is the Priemier Luger Forum from what I know now, maybe there could be a Priemier P.38 Forum too. This si really something to think about. The P.38 seems to have increased in activity lately amd the prices are climbing slowely. The "cyq" P.38s are now getting close to the Walther and Mauser prices for the common pistols. Just my thoughts on this subject too. Marvin

06-01-2001, 06:49 AM	#13
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	Hmmm...... OK - I'm only thinking out loud here!!!... Yes - I do have the servers, programs Internet connections, etc... HOWEVER, that being said - this site would not exist without DOK's dedication in maintaining it... Dok provides the "sizzle" that make it what it is, to be honest.. So - yes - I'd be willing to help assist in the preliminary programming (do the web board, classifieds, etc. programming) - but we'd need some/a volunteer(s) to help manage/maintain/moderate it.... Thoughts, comments????

06-01-2001, 10:33 AM	#14
FGR Guest Posts: n/a	David.... sight heigths... Front sights came in three standard heigths, differing by .1mm.... the difference is noticable on the flange section above the dovetail. The shortest sight has no flange and the highest has a relatively thick flange... Tom Heller would know more obout this, but it seems that even if you had the shortest, and went to the highest, your gun would still shoot high... just my 2 cents, fgr

06-02-2001, 05:06 AM	#15
Artsi User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 61 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: front sight height question? Hi ! David, I thought I'd let you know that you're not alone on this. I'll be using my non number matching P08 in competitions. It had a non original 120mm long barrel (equals about 4 3/4 inches) that shot just fine. I'm having it rebarreled as we speak. (I realized too late that the barrel does not comply with the roolbook so I have to swap it to a 4" barrel). My 'gunsmith' already took my shooter to a range and it shot about 6" to 8" too high at about 20meters. My smith will 'cut & paste' present front sight to make it taller. - Artsi

06-02-2001, 11:27 PM	#16
Tracy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The Trap is sprung! P38s I am for a P38 forum as I collect both the Luger and P38. Bob