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BILL · 05-20-2001, 11:50 AM

Does anyone have any idea how many custom sight variations were actually done by the manufacturer and how many were aftermarket? I have a gold dovetailed front sight on a 7.65mm Eagle and it just made me wonder how many different sights were made for the Luger (either by DWM, Mauser, etc) and how many were marketed as Luger sights by King, Marble, etc. Any ideas?

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Patrick · 05-20-2001, 12:37 PM

The dovetail looks neat. I canÃ?Â´t see the knife blade Lger front sight any more and use a P 38 sight. It fits perfectly and you see them quite often on Lugers here in Germany. Patrick

Frank · 05-20-2001, 01:00 PM

Patrick, I have the same problem!! Marble did make them but they have been discontinued. The only chance is to find a store that has them in the back room. Hugh tells me that K98 Mauser front sights have the same dovetail. If anyone finds several, please let me know!!!!

Patrick · 05-20-2001, 02:45 PM

Werle put a "U" rear sight on my Mini Luger - together with the P 38 front sight. And at last I can see what IÃ?Â´m shooting at. Quite a few Lugers IÃ?Â´ve seen have the rear sight filed out (there was a picture of a Norwegian one on the Forum some time ago). Of course itÃ?Â´s a shame to spoil a collectible gun - and I certainly wouldnÃ?Â´t do it to my other Lugers. Patrick

SteveM · 05-20-2001, 02:50 PM

Here is a bead sight on my 1900 AE. I have seen this same sight on several others. All were in the serial range as mine.

SteveM

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BILL · 05-20-2001, 03:49 PM

I have seen 1900AEs with that very same bead front sight. Having seen more than two it has made me wonder if the buyer oredered them that way or if they were an option offered here in the US. (nice pic SteveM)!

SteveM · 05-20-2001, 04:14 PM

I think that they were an option to the buyer. I picked up an original front sight for this pistol years ago just so that I would have it.(Thanks for the kudos on the pic)

SteveM

Frank · 05-20-2001, 06:25 PM

I did this to a spare toggle to a shooter, so no damage! I would like to convert the front to a flat P38 type someday.

Hugh · 05-20-2001, 10:37 PM

SARCO has 98 Mauser front sights for $1.75 each. These fit the Luger front sight dovetail and are tall enough that they can be filed down to give a flat top front sight.

Thor · 05-20-2001, 11:01 PM

Are they tall enough to help GT's Navy that was firing 11" high at 25 yds? That was with a std front sight! How is Baby #3 coming?, need feeeeelthy peeectures of the work please!

Hugh · 05-20-2001, 11:31 PM

Probably, I measured a Luger front sight and it was .275" high; the Mauser one was .312" high. There is a way to figure the correct front sight height, but I would have to look it up. Your baby will experience birth pangs on my next week in. The next two days will be consumed by "honey do's" and knife work.

Patrick · 05-21-2001, 03:49 AM

Fraank -I wouln Ã?Â´t have dared. Patrick

Frank · 05-21-2001, 10:47 AM

don't forget I said it was a pretty beat up rear toggle link. I did it for an experiment, but it turned out fairly nice.

Thor · 05-21-2001, 11:12 AM

Do you need it rust blued? DUH!

Patrick · 05-21-2001, 01:52 PM

Is there any way you can turn it back to the original? IÃ?Â´ve been asked quite often. Patrick

Frank · 05-21-2001, 02:34 PM

Other than changing out the rear toggle link, no!! Unless you welded up the sight slot and reworked it to the original "V".

Frank · 05-21-2001, 02:35 PM

Other than changing out the rear toggle link, no!! Unless you welded up the sight slot and reworked it to the original "V". The slot is 0.10 inches wide and as deep as the original "V".

Big Norm · 05-21-2001, 10:45 PM

I have the same front sight on my 1906AE serial# 63106. At first I thought someone just monkeyed with the gun. But I was told later that this was a ligit sight put on by Stoger for the american market. The rear sight was squared.

Big Norm

05-22-2001, 07:33 AM

Steve, Your Ivory bead front sight was obivously not installed at the factory, judging from the peen marks on the right side of blade. Many gunsmiths and individuals installed these sights, which were available from Marble's, Sherd, et al, with a choice of Ivory, brass or gold bead.

SteveM · 05-22-2001, 03:40 PM

No disagreement from me on this.

Steve

05-20-2001, 11:50 AM	#1
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Custom front sights Does anyone have any idea how many custom sight variations were actually done by the manufacturer and how many were aftermarket? I have a gold dovetailed front sight on a 7.65mm Eagle and it just made me wonder how many different sights were made for the Luger (either by DWM, Mauser, etc) and how many were marketed as Luger sights by King, Marble, etc. Any ideas? http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/sight.jpg

05-20-2001, 12:37 PM	#2
Patrick User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 241 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Custom front sights The dovetail looks neat. I canÃ?Â´t see the knife blade Lger front sight any more and use a P 38 sight. It fits perfectly and you see them quite often on Lugers here in Germany. Patrick

05-20-2001, 02:45 PM	#4
Patrick User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 241 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Custom front sights Werle put a "U" rear sight on my Mini Luger - together with the P 38 front sight. And at last I can see what IÃ?Â´m shooting at. Quite a few Lugers IÃ?Â´ve seen have the rear sight filed out (there was a picture of a Norwegian one on the Forum some time ago). Of course itÃ?Â´s a shame to spoil a collectible gun - and I certainly wouldnÃ?Â´t do it to my other Lugers. Patrick

05-20-2001, 02:50 PM	#5
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Re: Custom front sights Here is a bead sight on my 1900 AE. I have seen this same sight on several others. All were in the serial range as mine. SteveM http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/beadsight.jpg

05-20-2001, 03:49 PM	#6
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Custom front sights I have seen 1900AEs with that very same bead front sight. Having seen more than two it has made me wonder if the buyer oredered them that way or if they were an option offered here in the US. (nice pic SteveM)!

05-20-2001, 01:00 PM	#3
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Re: Custom front sights Patrick, I have the same problem!! Marble did make them but they have been discontinued. The only chance is to find a store that has them in the back room. Hugh tells me that K98 Mauser front sights have the same dovetail. If anyone finds several, please let me know!!!!

05-20-2001, 04:14 PM	#7
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Re: Custom front sights I think that they were an option to the buyer. I picked up an original front sight for this pistol years ago just so that I would have it.(Thanks for the kudos on the pic) SteveM

05-20-2001, 06:25 PM	#8
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Patrick, I have filed a square in the rear sight !! I did this to a spare toggle to a shooter, so no damage! I would like to convert the front to a flat P38 type someday.

05-20-2001, 10:37 PM	#9
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Re: Custom front sights SARCO has 98 Mauser front sights for $1.75 each. These fit the Luger front sight dovetail and are tall enough that they can be filed down to give a flat top front sight.

05-20-2001, 11:01 PM	#10
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: Custom front sights Are they tall enough to help GT's Navy that was firing 11" high at 25 yds? That was with a std front sight! How is Baby #3 coming?, need feeeeelthy peeectures of the work please!

05-20-2001, 11:31 PM	#11
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Re: Custom front sights Probably, I measured a Luger front sight and it was .275" high; the Mauser one was .312" high. There is a way to figure the correct front sight height, but I would have to look it up. Your baby will experience birth pangs on my next week in. The next two days will be consumed by "honey do's" and knife work.

05-21-2001, 03:49 AM	#12
Patrick User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 241 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Patrick, I have filed a square in the rear sight !! Fraank -I wouln Ã?Â´t have dared. Patrick

05-21-2001, 10:47 AM	#13
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	I used a pattern file and don't forget I said it was a pretty beat up rear toggle link. I did it for an experiment, but it turned out fairly nice.

05-21-2001, 11:12 AM	#14
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: I used a pattern file and Do you need it rust blued? DUH!

05-21-2001, 01:52 PM	#15
Patrick User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 241 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: I used a pattern file and Is there any way you can turn it back to the original? IÃ?Â´ve been asked quite often. Patrick

05-21-2001, 02:34 PM	#16
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Re: I used a pattern file and Other than changing out the rear toggle link, no!! Unless you welded up the sight slot and reworked it to the original "V".

05-21-2001, 02:35 PM	#17
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Re: I used a pattern file and Other than changing out the rear toggle link, no!! Unless you welded up the sight slot and reworked it to the original "V". The slot is 0.10 inches wide and as deep as the original "V".

05-21-2001, 10:45 PM	#18
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Custom front sights I have the same front sight on my 1906AE serial# 63106. At first I thought someone just monkeyed with the gun. But I was told later that this was a ligit sight put on by Stoger for the american market. The rear sight was squared. Big Norm

05-22-2001, 07:33 AM	#19
tom h Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Custom front sights Steve, Your Ivory bead front sight was obivously not installed at the factory, judging from the peen marks on the right side of blade. Many gunsmiths and individuals installed these sights, which were available from Marble's, Sherd, et al, with a choice of Ivory, brass or gold bead.

05-22-2001, 03:40 PM	#20
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Re: Custom front sights No disagreement from me on this. Steve