Artillery Luger's

Stevie · 09-22-2002, 05:09 PM

I watched a movie this morning that had a bunch of art.luger action in it, pretty cool. The most I've ever seen lugers on the Tube (aside from Tales of the Gun). The movie was THE LAND THAT TIME FORGOT ,starred Doug Mclure, B flik from hell. Worth watching just to see the guns.

Stevie.

Thor · 09-22-2002, 07:44 PM

LUGERS IN MOVIES
All Quiet on the Western Front (1931 version)
Anatomy of a Murder ***
Austin Powers--Man of Mystery
Battleground
Charade ***
Cobb
Cross of Iron**
Days of Glory
The Deadly Tower
Desert Rats *
The Detective
The English Patient
Escape from Sorbibor
Fatherland
The First Deadly Sin
For Your Eyes Only
Gorky Park ***
The Great Escape
The Great Race
Guns of Navarone
Hell’s Angels
The Heroes of Telemark
Hornet’s Nest
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade ***
Kelly’s Heroes
The Land that Time Forgot
The Maltese Falcon
Marines, Let’s Go ***
Night of the Fox ***
The Notorious Landlady ***
Of Mice and Men
Mother Night
Public Enemy No. One
Rogue Male
Schindler’s List ***
Sergeant York ***
Shadow of the Vampire **
Shining Through
Shoot at the Devil***
Slaughterhouse Five
Son of Frankenstein
Stalingrad
Tales of the Gun--The Luger (History Channel) ***
Teenagers from Outer Space**
Tobruk ***
Triple Cross
Twilight Zone--The Movie ***
The Valachi Papers
Von Ryan’s Express ***
Wall Street ***
Where Eagles Dare ***
***-------------High Luger presence, such as integral to plot, closeups, much footage, or good scene with Luger, etc.
**---------------Minor Luger presence
*-----------------Mere hint of Luger, such as brief glimpse in battlefield, wearing of P-08 holster, etc.
No astericks---Not yet rated
SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED AN UPDATE!

Pete Ebbink · 09-22-2002, 07:55 PM

Hey Ted,

Me thinks you watch too many movies...Wow ! What a list ! [img]wink.gif[/img]

And I thought most folks kept databases on luger models...!

Regards,

Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

Thor · 09-22-2002, 08:57 PM

We started compiling this list two years ago, I did only a little work on it, others really should take the credit for the compilation. Just goes to show you, Lugers are everywhere! I have NOT seen all these movies, but that IS a good plan!

hermit · 09-23-2002, 04:43 PM

Just thought I'd mention again a great book called "War of the Rats" that has a very accurate depiction of the german assault on Stalingrad and a duel between germany's best sniper and russia's Zaitsev. That movie is called "Enemy at the gates" and is quite good also, but doesn't do the book justice. Just read it again in fact. Well worth the read but only a small reference to lugers. <img src="graemlins/offtopic.gif" border="0" alt="[offtopic]" />

Doubs · 09-23-2002, 05:01 PM

In Remarque's sequel to "All Quiet on the Western Front", a book called "Three Comrades", I found it interesting that the handgun mentioned in it was the Reich's revolver.

One of their former company members, a LT. who had rissen from the ranks IIRC, found out his wife was seeing another man. The LT. finally found the man in a beerhall. As the LT. drew his revolver, the man attempted to shield himself with a chair. According to the story, there was no one in the company better with the issue revolver than the LT who placed his shot 1" higher than the chair and in the center of the man's forehead.

Stevie · 09-23-2002, 09:27 PM

WINTER PEOPLE, with Kurt Russell and Kelly Mcgillis also has some interesting Luger action in it. Pretty good movie too.

Stevie.

Doubs · 09-23-2002, 11:49 PM

To the movie list add 1978's "The Big Sleep" starring Robert Mitchum as Philip Marlowe. In one scene Malowe opens a sliding tray in the dash of his Mercedes (he's in England at the time) and removes a Luger which he sticks in his belt. He doesn't get to use it as he's knocked unconscious and later retrieves the second handgun from the tray...... what appears to be a S&W revolver. He uses the revolver to kill a bad guy, Richard Boone.

George Anderson · 09-24-2002, 06:15 AM

Best Luger and C96 action in film is "ANZACs; The War Down Under" great trench raiding footage all with stocks attached.

Thor · 09-24-2002, 08:22 AM

Plot for ANZACs-Following the lives of a dozen Australian soldiers who served in the Australia and New Zealand Army Corps (ANZAC) during World War I which follows them from the 1915 battle of Galipoli, to the brutal trenches of France during the 1916 Somme battles, the 1917 Arias and Vimy Ridge battles to the final 1918 German offensives and the final victory drive as well as the hardships, mid-adventures and the casualties of friends encounted at each one.
I dont see it offered on VHS or DVD, I guess it will be catch as catch can to see it. HEY....I just found out blockbuster offers it for rent!ANZACs at Blockbuster

arjen · 09-25-2002, 11:00 AM

Another film with a Luger in it is 'Freaks' , Tod Brownings 1932 MGM film .

In it a Luger is wielded by Johnny Eck ( billed as the Half-Boy in the credits ) . Eck was born without a lower body and his real name was John Eckhardt .

An area of interest of mine , I have more books on Freaks than on Lugers .

The Luger looks like the standard 4" bbl type .

mauro · 09-25-2002, 03:04 PM

Stevie if you have the tape of the movie, maybe it is possible to capture some little parts of it in digital format and share with us your pleasure.
Ciao

Stevie · 09-25-2002, 08:35 PM

Sorry Mouro, I don't have tapes or dvds of either of the movies I mentioned. There is a website where Tapes and dvds are cheap, I'll see if they are available.

Stevie.

George Anderson · 09-25-2002, 08:50 PM

One more of Super interest for the Luger...Stars Gary Cooper as a bachelor professor. Pre WWII, probably mid '30's. It's a humorous farce involving mob types.

Near the end of the film two thugs hold Cooper and his fellow profs at gun point.

The guns are a C96 with stock and an LP08 with stock. Pandamonium breaks loose and the thugs start firing the pistols.

They are both FULL-AUTO.

What's the title of this film?

Thor · 09-25-2002, 08:53 PM

Does this sound like the plot? It has the word Mob and shooting gallery? I guess not, no mention of professors in this one. Also in CASANOVA BROWN Cooper plays a professor.
Nan, a racketeer's daughter, is in love with The Kid, a shooting gallery showman. Despite Nan's prodding, The Kid has no ambitions about joining the rackets and making enough money to support Nan in the lifestyle she's accustomed to. Her attitude changes after her father implicates her in a murder and she's sent to prison. During her incarceration, her father convinces The Kid to join the gang in order to help free Nan. When Nan is released, she wants nothing more to do with the mob and tries to get The Kid to quit, but she may be too late.

Much easier to pull an image off a DVD, like ol Robert Vaughn firing a P.38

unspellable · 09-26-2002, 03:24 PM

Have you ever noticed the genteel bad types have Lugers but the creepy bad types have Broomhandles?

In the movie, "Rocketeer", towards the end of the movie, you will see a crowd of bad guys with P38's. Interesting in view of the fact that the movie is set in the time period prior to the outbreak of WWII. They should'er had Lugers.

Doubs · 09-26-2002, 03:47 PM

[quote]Originally posted by unspellable:
<strong> In the movie, "Rocketeer", towards the end of the movie, you will see a crowd of bad guys with P38's. Interesting in view of the fact that the movie is set in the time period prior to the outbreak of WWII. They should'er had Lugers.</strong><hr></blockquote>

There's a technical term for something that appears in a book or movie before it historically should. I've forgotten what it's called but I think even Shakespear used items out of time in his plays.

Weissen · 09-26-2002, 06:16 PM

Guys
I've noticed many episodes of 'Get Smart' (yes it's STILL on TV down here)have Lugers in them. They are always being brandished by the KAOS guys along with other assorted firearms. I saw an episode the other day (yes we're still wathing them down here too <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> ) where there was a really good closeup of Max with a rather nice looking P08 being held to his head.

Cheers
Ken
<img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

Ron Wood · 09-26-2002, 07:09 PM

I recall an episode of "Get Smart" where Max and a Russian agent are emptying their pockets of all their concealed weapons. A wide array of firearms were produced and at one point Max pulls out a Borchardt!

Dwight Gruber · 09-27-2002, 02:28 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Doubs:
<strong>There's a technical term for something that appears in a book or movie before it historically should. I've forgotten what it's called but I think even Shakespear used items out of time in his plays.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Anachronism.

--Dwight

09-22-2002, 05:09 PM	#1
Stevie User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ok. Posts: 212 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Artillery Luger's I watched a movie this morning that had a bunch of art.luger action in it, pretty cool. The most I've ever seen lugers on the Tube (aside from Tales of the Gun). The movie was THE LAND THAT TIME FORGOT ,starred Doug Mclure, B flik from hell. Worth watching just to see the guns. Stevie.

09-22-2002, 07:44 PM	#2
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	LUGERS IN MOVIES All Quiet on the Western Front (1931 version) Anatomy of a Murder * Austin Powers--Man of Mystery Battleground Charade * Cobb Cross of Iron** Days of Glory The Deadly Tower Desert Rats * The Detective The English Patient Escape from Sorbibor Fatherland The First Deadly Sin For Your Eyes Only Gorky Park * The Great Escape The Great Race Guns of Navarone Hell’s Angels The Heroes of Telemark Hornet’s Nest Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade * Kelly’s Heroes The Land that Time Forgot The Maltese Falcon Marines, Let’s Go * Night of the Fox * The Notorious Landlady * Of Mice and Men Mother Night Public Enemy No. One Rogue Male Schindler’s List * Sergeant York * Shadow of the Vampire Shining Through Shoot at the Devil* Slaughterhouse Five Son of Frankenstein Stalingrad Tales of the Gun--The Luger (History Channel) * Teenagers from Outer Space Tobruk * Triple Cross Twilight Zone--The Movie * The Valachi Papers Von Ryan’s Express * Wall Street * Where Eagles Dare * *-------------High Luger presence, such as integral to plot, closeups, much footage, or good scene with Luger, etc. ---------------Minor Luger presence *-----------------Mere hint of Luger, such as brief glimpse in battlefield, wearing of P-08 holster, etc. No astericks---Not yet rated SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED AN UPDATE! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

09-22-2002, 08:57 PM	#4
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	We started compiling this list two years ago, I did only a little work on it, others really should take the credit for the compilation. Just goes to show you, Lugers are everywhere! I have NOT seen all these movies, but that IS a good plan! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

09-24-2002, 08:22 AM	#10
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Plot for ANZACs-Following the lives of a dozen Australian soldiers who served in the Australia and New Zealand Army Corps (ANZAC) during World War I which follows them from the 1915 battle of Galipoli, to the brutal trenches of France during the 1916 Somme battles, the 1917 Arias and Vimy Ridge battles to the final 1918 German offensives and the final victory drive as well as the hardships, mid-adventures and the casualties of friends encounted at each one. I dont see it offered on VHS or DVD, I guess it will be catch as catch can to see it. HEY....I just found out blockbuster offers it for rent!ANZACs at Blockbuster __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

09-25-2002, 03:04 PM	#12
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Stevie if you have the tape of the movie, maybe it is possible to capture some little parts of it in digital format and share with us your pleasure. Ciao __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

09-22-2002, 07:55 PM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hey Ted, Me thinks you watch too many movies...Wow ! What a list ! [img]wink.gif[/img] And I thought most folks kept databases on luger models...! Regards, Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

09-23-2002, 04:43 PM	#5
hermit User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: canada Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just thought I'd mention again a great book called "War of the Rats" that has a very accurate depiction of the german assault on Stalingrad and a duel between germany's best sniper and russia's Zaitsev. That movie is called "Enemy at the gates" and is quite good also, but doesn't do the book justice. Just read it again in fact. Well worth the read but only a small reference to lugers. <img src="graemlins/offtopic.gif" border="0" alt="[offtopic]" />

09-23-2002, 05:01 PM	#6
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,671 Thanks: 772 Thanked 1,617 Times in 526 Posts	In Remarque's sequel to "All Quiet on the Western Front", a book called "Three Comrades", I found it interesting that the handgun mentioned in it was the Reich's revolver. One of their former company members, a LT. who had rissen from the ranks IIRC, found out his wife was seeing another man. The LT. finally found the man in a beerhall. As the LT. drew his revolver, the man attempted to shield himself with a chair. According to the story, there was no one in the company better with the issue revolver than the LT who placed his shot 1" higher than the chair and in the center of the man's forehead.

09-23-2002, 09:27 PM	#7
Stevie User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ok. Posts: 212 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	WINTER PEOPLE, with Kurt Russell and Kelly Mcgillis also has some interesting Luger action in it. Pretty good movie too. Stevie.

09-23-2002, 11:49 PM	#8
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,671 Thanks: 772 Thanked 1,617 Times in 526 Posts	To the movie list add 1978's "The Big Sleep" starring Robert Mitchum as Philip Marlowe. In one scene Malowe opens a sliding tray in the dash of his Mercedes (he's in England at the time) and removes a Luger which he sticks in his belt. He doesn't get to use it as he's knocked unconscious and later retrieves the second handgun from the tray...... what appears to be a S&W revolver. He uses the revolver to kill a bad guy, Richard Boone.

09-24-2002, 06:15 AM	#9
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Best Luger and C96 action in film is "ANZACs; The War Down Under" great trench raiding footage all with stocks attached.

09-25-2002, 11:00 AM	#11
arjen User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dominion of Canada Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Another film with a Luger in it is 'Freaks' , Tod Brownings 1932 MGM film . In it a Luger is wielded by Johnny Eck ( billed as the Half-Boy in the credits ) . Eck was born without a lower body and his real name was John Eckhardt . An area of interest of mine , I have more books on Freaks than on Lugers . The Luger looks like the standard 4" bbl type .

09-25-2002, 08:35 PM	#13
Stevie User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ok. Posts: 212 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sorry Mouro, I don't have tapes or dvds of either of the movies I mentioned. There is a website where Tapes and dvds are cheap, I'll see if they are available. Stevie.

09-25-2002, 08:50 PM	#14
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	One more of Super interest for the Luger...Stars Gary Cooper as a bachelor professor. Pre WWII, probably mid '30's. It's a humorous farce involving mob types. Near the end of the film two thugs hold Cooper and his fellow profs at gun point. The guns are a C96 with stock and an LP08 with stock. Pandamonium breaks loose and the thugs start firing the pistols. They are both FULL-AUTO. What's the title of this film?

09-25-2002, 08:53 PM	#15
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Does this sound like the plot? It has the word Mob and shooting gallery? I guess not, no mention of professors in this one. Also in CASANOVA BROWN Cooper plays a professor. Nan, a racketeer's daughter, is in love with The Kid, a shooting gallery showman. Despite Nan's prodding, The Kid has no ambitions about joining the rackets and making enough money to support Nan in the lifestyle she's accustomed to. Her attitude changes after her father implicates her in a murder and she's sent to prison. During her incarceration, her father convinces The Kid to join the gang in order to help free Nan. When Nan is released, she wants nothing more to do with the mob and tries to get The Kid to quit, but she may be too late. Much easier to pull an image off a DVD, like ol Robert Vaughn firing a P.38 __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

09-26-2002, 03:24 PM	#16
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	Have you ever noticed the genteel bad types have Lugers but the creepy bad types have Broomhandles? In the movie, "Rocketeer", towards the end of the movie, you will see a crowd of bad guys with P38's. Interesting in view of the fact that the movie is set in the time period prior to the outbreak of WWII. They should'er had Lugers.

09-26-2002, 03:47 PM	#17
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,671 Thanks: 772 Thanked 1,617 Times in 526 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by unspellable: <strong> In the movie, "Rocketeer", towards the end of the movie, you will see a crowd of bad guys with P38's. Interesting in view of the fact that the movie is set in the time period prior to the outbreak of WWII. They should'er had Lugers.</strong><hr></blockquote> There's a technical term for something that appears in a book or movie before it historically should. I've forgotten what it's called but I think even Shakespear used items out of time in his plays.

09-26-2002, 06:16 PM	#18
Weissen User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South Australia Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Guys I've noticed many episodes of 'Get Smart' (yes it's STILL on TV down here)have Lugers in them. They are always being brandished by the KAOS guys along with other assorted firearms. I saw an episode the other day (yes we're still wathing them down here too <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> ) where there was a really good closeup of Max with a rather nice looking P08 being held to his head. Cheers Ken <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

09-26-2002, 07:09 PM	#19
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	I recall an episode of "Get Smart" where Max and a Russian agent are emptying their pockets of all their concealed weapons. A wide array of firearms were produced and at one point Max pulls out a Borchardt! __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-27-2002, 02:28 AM	#20
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by Doubs: <strong>There's a technical term for something that appears in a book or movie before it historically should. I've forgotten what it's called but I think even Shakespear used items out of time in his plays.</strong><hr></blockquote> Anachronism. --Dwight