Navy vs. Artillery Stocks

Buddy · 05-02-2001, 09:36 AM

Can anyone tell me the differences between the navy and artillery stocks? I thought the navy one had a brass "medallion" on them and the artillery didn't, as well as some dimension differences.

Thanks,

Buddy

John Sabato · 05-02-2001, 10:59 AM

Buddy,

The Navy stock is approximately an inch shorter than the Artillery version. The Navy stock should have a medallion screwed to it. This medallion was where the unit designation was stamped.

The stock irons are virtually identical as far as the ones I have seen, although markings may differ.

Here are the photos of a couple stocks that were auctioned in the last year or so. The top stock and the closeup of the disk are the same stock.

regards,

John

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/navystocks.jpg

Buddy · 05-02-2001, 11:11 AM

Thanks, John, Good information as usual. And what do you think a navy and an artillery stock is worth today, assuming average condition?

Buddy

John Sabato · 05-02-2001, 11:19 AM

I have seen them go from between $157 to $590.00 for an original stock that was attached to a reproduction holster on eBay during the last year depending on condition and the number of people bidding.

Stocks that have been sanded down and refinished also vary in value as depends on who is bidding and how bad they want it.

If I remember correctly, an artillery stock sold for about $250 just a couple of weeks ago.

Of course the same is true of anything bought at auction. Perhaps some others here can speak to how much these items have sold for from regular dealers???

Have you got one Buddy or are you looking to buy one? Gun Parts Corp has reproductions available, as does CMR, Int'l and maybe Tom Heller as well. No doubt that Ralph Shattuck may have some originals for sale too.

-John

Buddy · 05-02-2001, 01:46 PM

I'm looking to buy a stock for my 1917 navy. I'll check Gun Parts and CMR for one. I don't mind having a repro because it is a mismatched shooter anyway. Thanks for the input,

Buddy

Frank · 05-02-2001, 03:24 PM

From my recent price study, the going price seens to be in the $400 to $500 range for original military or commercial, unless it is a rarity. FWIW

John Sabato · 05-02-2001, 03:55 PM

A strong reminder to those of you who own these models but are new to collecting lugers.

The assembly of a navy luger with an artillery model stock or,

the assembly of an artillery luger with a navy model stock is a violation of the C&R exepmtion rules under the national firearms act of 1934. make darn sure you have the right one! We don't need no stinking felonies in this group of guys!

-John

05-02-2001, 09:36 AM	#1
Buddy User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Navy vs. Artillery Stocks Can anyone tell me the differences between the navy and artillery stocks? I thought the navy one had a brass "medallion" on them and the artillery didn't, as well as some dimension differences. Thanks, Buddy

05-02-2001, 10:59 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Re: Navy vs. Artillery Stocks Buddy, The Navy stock is approximately an inch shorter than the Artillery version. The Navy stock should have a medallion screwed to it. This medallion was where the unit designation was stamped. The stock irons are virtually identical as far as the ones I have seen, although markings may differ. Here are the photos of a couple stocks that were auctioned in the last year or so. The top stock and the closeup of the disk are the same stock. regards, John http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/navystocks.jpg

05-02-2001, 11:11 AM	#3
Buddy User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Navy vs. Artillery Stocks Thanks, John, Good information as usual. And what do you think a navy and an artillery stock is worth today, assuming average condition? Buddy

05-02-2001, 11:19 AM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Values Vary... I have seen them go from between $157 to $590.00 for an original stock that was attached to a reproduction holster on eBay during the last year depending on condition and the number of people bidding. Stocks that have been sanded down and refinished also vary in value as depends on who is bidding and how bad they want it. If I remember correctly, an artillery stock sold for about $250 just a couple of weeks ago. Of course the same is true of anything bought at auction. Perhaps some others here can speak to how much these items have sold for from regular dealers??? Have you got one Buddy or are you looking to buy one? Gun Parts Corp has reproductions available, as does CMR, Int'l and maybe Tom Heller as well. No doubt that Ralph Shattuck may have some originals for sale too. -John

05-02-2001, 01:46 PM	#5
Buddy User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Values Vary... I'm looking to buy a stock for my 1917 navy. I'll check Gun Parts and CMR for one. I don't mind having a repro because it is a mismatched shooter anyway. Thanks for the input, Buddy

05-02-2001, 03:24 PM	#6
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Re: Values Vary... From my recent price study, the going price seens to be in the $400 to $500 range for original military or commercial, unless it is a rarity. FWIW

05-02-2001, 03:55 PM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	A legal caution about stocks and lugers. A strong reminder to those of you who own these models but are new to collecting lugers. The assembly of a navy luger with an artillery model stock or, the assembly of an artillery luger with a navy model stock is a violation of the C&R exepmtion rules under the national firearms act of 1934. make darn sure you have the right one! We don't need no stinking felonies in this group of guys! -John