Firing pin

PACKET · 04-28-2003, 11:19 AM

I have a DWM, 1921 that I thought was all matching except for the mag until I disassembled it. I found that the firing pin is the newer fluted type with no serial number. I know that this production date should have the older type. According to what I've read, the fluted type was introduced around 1930 as a safety improvement. So, I guess my question is, if the pistol was modified by the armourers, would they have numbered the part?

PACKET · 05-06-2003, 11:34 PM

Ok guys, whats wrong with my post? I cant believe someone out there doesnt know the answer. Is it maybe because I posted in the wrong place? All I want to know is if its possible that a firing pin could have been replaced by an armory, for safety reasons, without being numbered to the gun. I am a newbie and just seeking answers.

Doug G. · 05-06-2003, 11:46 PM

Ok, I'll take a stab at it. I would say maybe, you will see rework guns that have just a S/42 mark denoting that they were Mauser made replacement parts. These will usually not have a number added to match the rest of the gun. Your 1921 could have been reworked and had the date removed and re-stamped. If it was a new production then it was upgraded at some time, but I still don't think that a field armory or regular armorer would bother to stamp the number on a replacement part. Just my .02

Edward Tinker · 05-06-2003, 11:48 PM

I don't know enough about firing pins, although a friend of mine who is a pretty good guy to know, says that if you have to have a mismatching part, the firing pin was one very likely to have been replaced in the field or armoury, he feels that it isn't that same as a mis-matched side-plate, or other parts. Many will disagree with that. From what I have heard, the fluted ones were put in many older guns. I didn't think it was in the 1930's tho? I thought it was much earlier?

We'll get you a response, sorry about you being ignored. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Ed

Lugerdoc · 05-07-2003, 07:56 AM

Packet, The more likely method of up grading pre1930 unfluted firing pins by a rework facility, was to cut the grooves into the original numbered FP. I have several in stock that have been so modified. Chances are that your original broke somewhere along it's life and was replaced. I do have a lot of numbered original DWM FPs @$35 each, if you care to match it up. Tom H.

PACKET · 05-07-2003, 09:00 AM

Thankyou very much gentlemen. I do appreciate your input. Lugerdoc, if you have an original firing pin, #56, I would love to have it. Im also looking for a locking bolt/take down lever #59.

Jim Keenan · 05-09-2003, 02:19 PM

Whatever, the fluted type is better if you are going to shoot the gun. See "Baby had an accident" elsewhere on the forum.

Jim

04-28-2003, 11:19 AM	#1
PACKET User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: FL. Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Firing pin I have a DWM, 1921 that I thought was all matching except for the mag until I disassembled it. I found that the firing pin is the newer fluted type with no serial number. I know that this production date should have the older type. According to what I've read, the fluted type was introduced around 1930 as a safety improvement. So, I guess my question is, if the pistol was modified by the armourers, would they have numbered the part?

05-06-2003, 11:46 PM	#3
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	Ok, I'll take a stab at it. I would say maybe, you will see rework guns that have just a S/42 mark denoting that they were Mauser made replacement parts. These will usually not have a number added to match the rest of the gun. Your 1921 could have been reworked and had the date removed and re-stamped. If it was a new production then it was upgraded at some time, but I still don't think that a field armory or regular armorer would bother to stamp the number on a replacement part. Just my .02 __________________ Suppose you were an idiot.....and suppose you were a member of Congress.....But I repeat myself" ~~ Mark Twain

05-06-2003, 11:48 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,960 Thanks: 2,062 Thanked 4,591 Times in 2,114 Posts	I don't know enough about firing pins, although a friend of mine who is a pretty good guy to know, says that if you have to have a mismatching part, the firing pin was one very likely to have been replaced in the field or armoury, he feels that it isn't that same as a mis-matched side-plate, or other parts. Many will disagree with that. From what I have heard, the fluted ones were put in many older guns. I didn't think it was in the 1930's tho? I thought it was much earlier? We'll get you a response, sorry about you being ignored. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-06-2003, 11:34 PM	#2
PACKET User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: FL. Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok guys, whats wrong with my post? I cant believe someone out there doesnt know the answer. Is it maybe because I posted in the wrong place? All I want to know is if its possible that a firing pin could have been replaced by an armory, for safety reasons, without being numbered to the gun. I am a newbie and just seeking answers.

05-07-2003, 07:56 AM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Packet, The more likely method of up grading pre1930 unfluted firing pins by a rework facility, was to cut the grooves into the original numbered FP. I have several in stock that have been so modified. Chances are that your original broke somewhere along it's life and was replaced. I do have a lot of numbered original DWM FPs @$35 each, if you care to match it up. Tom H. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

05-07-2003, 09:00 AM	#6
PACKET User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: FL. Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thankyou very much gentlemen. I do appreciate your input. Lugerdoc, if you have an original firing pin, #56, I would love to have it. Im also looking for a locking bolt/take down lever #59.

05-09-2003, 02:19 PM	#7
Jim Keenan User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Whatever, the fluted type is better if you are going to shoot the gun. See "Baby had an accident" elsewhere on the forum. Jim