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Motown · 10-09-2004, 08:22 AM

Looking for some general info- I have a K date pistol and am looking to get a holster for it. A friend found one- dated 1934 w/a nazi-marked take down tool and bore rod. Any hints as to what the 'proper' tool would be marked with- and what the proper rod would look like? Next- what makes a 'good' holster vs. a great one, vs. a bad one...? Any hints at what to avoid? And then, a BROAD price range for these things. I've read some things here about them in the past, but I know they can be spendy- and some can even be fake...

Thanks.

Lugerdoc · 10-09-2004, 10:21 AM

Motown, A 1934 dated PO8 holster would be perfect for your K date, although they were probably not issued that way. The most appropriate loading tool, would be one with the same proofing as on the right side of your K date (several different inspector's proofs were used in 1934). If the holster in question has the steel loop cleaning rod and a strap & boot for it under the top flap, it is most likely original. TH

Pete Ebbink · 10-09-2004, 12:25 PM

Hi Leon,

The last couple of 1934 dated holster on the auction sites (e-Bay...if I recall) went for $ 500 and $ 650...both seemed to be in vg condition, if I remember correctly.

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Motown · 10-10-2004, 08:30 AM

You say they weren't 'issued that way'- why not?

Lugerdoc · 10-10-2004, 09:52 AM

Holster were drawn from the clothing depots, not issued with the pistol. So during WW2, you were as likely to be issued a well used WW1 holster, as a new production one, probably made some time before your pistol, or it could be a rework of captured foreign holsters made by forced labor. I have personally owned reworked French, German & Russian revolver holsters, reworked for everything from pocket pistols to FNHPs and lugers. Once in the field, particularily late in the war, the basic rule seems to be "anything that fits". TH

Motown · 10-11-2004, 07:27 AM

OK, just like it goes these days... I'm frankly suprised that there is ever a 'matching' magazine w/any of these pistols- now-a-days they come w/a magazine or two, but we just throw them in a box and issue them seperately. I assume after a little time in the armory, 'matching' magazines were done the same way the Marines do things today- big pile, more convenient for the armorer!

Motown · 10-11-2004, 07:28 AM

Oh yeah- how did the tools/rods get issued- same as the holsters?

Lugerdoc · 10-11-2004, 10:02 AM

Police pistols are another ball game. Appearantly, the police issuing authority (depot, department, etc?) during certain periods (Weimar and early Nazi eras) numbered holsters, cleaning rods and loading tools to either the serial number or unit issue number of the pistol. Once these were issued to an officer, he was responcible to keep them together and in good condition through out his career, which I suspect was a lot longer than soliders who saw combat. TH

Russ · 10-11-2004, 01:13 PM

Leon
Mike Morris has a 1934 holster on his sight.
http://relicsofthereichs.com/lugers.htm

I was with LSB on the rock in 1984
Semper fi <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />
Russ

10-09-2004, 08:22 AM	#1
Motown User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Double Oak, TX Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	K Date hoster Looking for some general info- I have a K date pistol and am looking to get a holster for it. A friend found one- dated 1934 w/a nazi-marked take down tool and bore rod. Any hints as to what the 'proper' tool would be marked with- and what the proper rod would look like? Next- what makes a 'good' holster vs. a great one, vs. a bad one...? Any hints at what to avoid? And then, a BROAD price range for these things. I've read some things here about them in the past, but I know they can be spendy- and some can even be fake... Thanks. __________________ "Avoid excessive sharpness or harshness of voice, which usually indicates the man who has shortcomings of his own to hide." --Field Marshall Erwin Rommel

10-09-2004, 10:21 AM	#2
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Motown, A 1934 dated PO8 holster would be perfect for your K date, although they were probably not issued that way. The most appropriate loading tool, would be one with the same proofing as on the right side of your K date (several different inspector's proofs were used in 1934). If the holster in question has the steel loop cleaning rod and a strap & boot for it under the top flap, it is most likely original. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

10-10-2004, 08:30 AM	#4
Motown User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Double Oak, TX Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You say they weren't 'issued that way'- why not? __________________ "Avoid excessive sharpness or harshness of voice, which usually indicates the man who has shortcomings of his own to hide." --Field Marshall Erwin Rommel

10-10-2004, 09:52 AM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Holster were drawn from the clothing depots, not issued with the pistol. So during WW2, you were as likely to be issued a well used WW1 holster, as a new production one, probably made some time before your pistol, or it could be a rework of captured foreign holsters made by forced labor. I have personally owned reworked French, German & Russian revolver holsters, reworked for everything from pocket pistols to FNHPs and lugers. Once in the field, particularily late in the war, the basic rule seems to be "anything that fits". TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

10-11-2004, 07:27 AM	#6
Motown User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Double Oak, TX Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	OK, just like it goes these days... I'm frankly suprised that there is ever a 'matching' magazine w/any of these pistols- now-a-days they come w/a magazine or two, but we just throw them in a box and issue them seperately. I assume after a little time in the armory, 'matching' magazines were done the same way the Marines do things today- big pile, more convenient for the armorer! __________________ "Avoid excessive sharpness or harshness of voice, which usually indicates the man who has shortcomings of his own to hide." --Field Marshall Erwin Rommel

10-09-2004, 12:25 PM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Leon, The last couple of 1934 dated holster on the auction sites (e-Bay...if I recall) went for $ 500 and $ 650...both seemed to be in vg condition, if I remember correctly. Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

10-11-2004, 07:28 AM	#7
Motown User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Double Oak, TX Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh yeah- how did the tools/rods get issued- same as the holsters? __________________ "Avoid excessive sharpness or harshness of voice, which usually indicates the man who has shortcomings of his own to hide." --Field Marshall Erwin Rommel

10-11-2004, 10:02 AM	#8
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Police pistols are another ball game. Appearantly, the police issuing authority (depot, department, etc?) during certain periods (Weimar and early Nazi eras) numbered holsters, cleaning rods and loading tools to either the serial number or unit issue number of the pistol. Once these were issued to an officer, he was responcible to keep them together and in good condition through out his career, which I suspect was a lot longer than soliders who saw combat. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

10-11-2004, 01:13 PM	#9
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	Leon Mike Morris has a 1934 holster on his sight. http://relicsofthereichs.com/lugers.htm I was with LSB on the rock in 1984 Semper fi <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" /> Russ __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!