DWM 1920 COMMERCIAL LUGER

Ballistic · 01-27-2004, 08:30 AM

7.65mm SN 42920, GOOD CONDITION reqorked for commercial sales in USA, part of an estate collection, looking to purchase and need conservative value.

thanks,
mike

policeluger · 01-27-2004, 09:25 AM

Go to www.simpson.com and look at what he is offering, see how it compares to the one you are looking at, also try Auction Arms and see what is offered there and the prices.

Ballistic · 01-27-2004, 01:47 PM

THANK YOU

John Sabato · 01-27-2004, 02:41 PM

If you buy it, please update the forum on how you made out, and post photos please.

Lugerdoc · 01-28-2004, 09:32 AM

Ballistic, The 5 digit serial number given above would be for a grip safety M1906 luger. I persume that you meant the last digit to be a letter "o" rather than a zero. TH

Ballistic · 01-29-2004, 07:45 AM

I took the number from the Estate Appraiser list. I will have to visually examine the pistol to make certain. But the letter "o" makes sense to me.
Won't be able to view the item until next week.
Will get back with the correct #.
Thank you.
Mike M.

Vertigo · 02-04-2004, 09:59 AM

I need some help. I have a commercial DWM luger and I would like to know the manufacturing year of it. In the "all 08 military lugers" section under the name "What is this" are some pics of it. I would be very glad if someone regonizes it and answers to me.

John Sabato · 02-04-2004, 10:05 AM

Vertigo check that message thread again... I found the answer to your question...

Ballistic · 02-05-2004, 04:48 PM

Hello forum friends.
Here are the markings I found on the Luger in question. What do I have??
No date stamp, GERMANY stamped on barrel and GERMANY under SN4292, the letter a under SN on frame.
Crown with leter N under on left side of frame and also on left side of toggle linkage.
GESICHERT stamped at safety area. DWM on top of toggle and 92 stamped at reat of safety.
Cannot find any other markings, however, the safety, trigger, take-down pin and metal piece on right side of slide is straw colored. Remaining areas are blued, magazine has no marks.
Pistol is in excellent condition. Seller had gun appraised and appraiser said it is a 1920 Commercial. Is this true? And what would you put the value of it with the description given?
Thank you,
Mike

Doubs · 02-05-2004, 10:14 PM

With one exception everything points to a 1920 (or Alphabet) Commercial. The exception is the letter "a" which is not correct for a 1920. Could it be an "o"?

The other possibility is a re-worked military pistol but the military date, serial number and inspection stamps/proofs would have been removed from the receiver and I don't think that's the case if the sideplate and locking bolt aren't serial numbered on the exposed side. The number "92" is likely to be found under those two parts, further indicating a 1920 Commercial.

Ballistic · 02-06-2004, 07:26 AM

It is the letter 'O'. I compared it with the tech info in this forum.
As mentioned the pistol is in very good to excellent condition.

Ballpark value is appreciated.

Thank again,
Mike

Doubs · 02-06-2004, 03:45 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Ballistic:
It is the letter 'O'. I compared it with the tech info in this forum. Mike<hr /></blockquote>It is a 1920 Commercial or "Alphabet" Commercial. In VG-Exc condition, I'd say $500 - $700.

Ballistic · 02-10-2004, 08:10 AM

Appreciate the feedback Doubs--thanks.
Mike

01-27-2004, 08:30 AM	#1
Ballistic User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	DWM 1920 COMMERCIAL LUGER 7.65mm SN 42920, GOOD CONDITION reqorked for commercial sales in USA, part of an estate collection, looking to purchase and need conservative value. thanks, mike

01-27-2004, 02:41 PM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	If you buy it, please update the forum on how you made out, and post photos please. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

01-28-2004, 09:32 AM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Ballistic, The 5 digit serial number given above would be for a grip safety M1906 luger. I persume that you meant the last digit to be a letter "o" rather than a zero. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

02-04-2004, 10:05 AM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Vertigo check that message thread again... I found the answer to your question... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-06-2004, 03:45 PM	#12
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,671 Thanks: 772 Thanked 1,617 Times in 526 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Ballistic: <strong>It is the letter 'O'. I compared it with the tech info in this forum. Mike</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">It is a 1920 Commercial or "Alphabet" Commercial. In VG-Exc condition, I'd say $500 - $700.

01-27-2004, 09:25 AM	#2
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Go to www.simpson.com and look at what he is offering, see how it compares to the one you are looking at, also try Auction Arms and see what is offered there and the prices.

01-27-2004, 01:47 PM	#3
Ballistic User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	THANK YOU

01-29-2004, 07:45 AM	#6
Ballistic User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I took the number from the Estate Appraiser list. I will have to visually examine the pistol to make certain. But the letter "o" makes sense to me. Won't be able to view the item until next week. Will get back with the correct #. Thank you. Mike M.

02-04-2004, 09:59 AM	#7
Vertigo User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I need some help. I have a commercial DWM luger and I would like to know the manufacturing year of it. In the "all 08 military lugers" section under the name "What is this" are some pics of it. I would be very glad if someone regonizes it and answers to me.

02-05-2004, 04:48 PM	#9
Ballistic User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello forum friends. Here are the markings I found on the Luger in question. What do I have?? No date stamp, GERMANY stamped on barrel and GERMANY under SN4292, the letter a under SN on frame. Crown with leter N under on left side of frame and also on left side of toggle linkage. GESICHERT stamped at safety area. DWM on top of toggle and 92 stamped at reat of safety. Cannot find any other markings, however, the safety, trigger, take-down pin and metal piece on right side of slide is straw colored. Remaining areas are blued, magazine has no marks. Pistol is in excellent condition. Seller had gun appraised and appraiser said it is a 1920 Commercial. Is this true? And what would you put the value of it with the description given? Thank you, Mike

02-05-2004, 10:14 PM	#10
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,671 Thanks: 772 Thanked 1,617 Times in 526 Posts	With one exception everything points to a 1920 (or Alphabet) Commercial. The exception is the letter "a" which is not correct for a 1920. Could it be an "o"? The other possibility is a re-worked military pistol but the military date, serial number and inspection stamps/proofs would have been removed from the receiver and I don't think that's the case if the sideplate and locking bolt aren't serial numbered on the exposed side. The number "92" is likely to be found under those two parts, further indicating a 1920 Commercial.

02-06-2004, 07:26 AM	#11
Ballistic User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It is the letter 'O'. I compared it with the tech info in this forum. As mentioned the pistol is in very good to excellent condition. Ballpark value is appreciated. Thank again, Mike

02-10-2004, 08:10 AM	#13
Ballistic User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Appreciate the feedback Doubs--thanks. Mike