Help with a holster?

mowzerluvr · 10-16-2003, 07:54 PM

I have been looking for a holster to match (in date anyway) my "G" code Luger, why do I keep seeing 40,41,or 42 dates but NEVER a 1935? are they really rare? Where is a good place to look for one? any help on this subject will place you on my list of thank you's owed.. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

Edward Tinker · 10-16-2003, 08:02 PM

1935's are not common, so you see them, but at high prices.

Of course, in reality, it is nice to have one within a year or so, but being issued with a gun, you would see a year earleir or several years later than your gun. all depend son when it was issued from "supply".

Personnaly, I try to find a holster that is close, but after the gun was made, but right before it was made would also make sense.

Ed

mowzerluvr · 10-16-2003, 08:28 PM

I hear ya. I got one today, it is mostly mint shape other than the fact that the straps were removed and a 4 rivet square of leather with a weapons belt hook was attached. I have seen one other and it was a Norweigen army conversion. Mine has a Lederwarenwerk, Curt Vogel stamp on the back but can't see the date. I have seen some 36's but never yet seen a 35. Thanks for the reply.

John D. · 10-16-2003, 08:32 PM

Hmmmm - I was just checking the holster that my G date is in (I bought it for my Dad when I was 18). It's proofed - dated 1935.. Looks like DRESDEN on the stamp, but I can't make out the name or the WaAProof Number? I'll try Bob's baby powder trick later - and see what I can see....

Hope this helps!

John

John D. · 10-16-2003, 08:40 PM

Well - I just tried baby powder...

Here you go:

WaA 14 and a little "2" or maybe 142 - it's really hard to see, to be honest. I'll try tomorrow... And take a pic..

Makers name: "C????HEN"

Looks like DRESDEN has a little "." at the end...

Anyone know? I'm not a holster guy..???

Herb · 10-16-2003, 09:05 PM

JD, could it be Carl Heinichen mfg code joa of Dresden?

John D. · 10-16-2003, 09:08 PM

Hey Herb..!!

No codes like "joa"..??? From left to right it has:

C????HEN (droop Eagle)
DRESDEN. WaA142 1935

Still not sure if it's 142 or 14 "little 2"???

Make sense???

Thanks for the assist!!!!
(Edit by Johnd. I'll try a pic in a minute - BUT it will be lousy - as there is no daylight!!!

)

John D. · 10-16-2003, 09:27 PM

Here is a VERY rough pic (it's the best I can do under room lights..??!!)... Shows placement, date, etc...

mowzerluvr · 10-16-2003, 09:34 PM

That is an awesome help John D, does anyone know anyplace that sells holsters, or a good place to look for one?

mowzerluvr · 10-16-2003, 09:36 PM

By the way John D, not sure if you are aware but I looked in a productions book today and there were only 54,???. of the "G" codes made. That made my day. Makes it rare in my eyes.

John D. · 10-16-2003, 09:37 PM

Thanks ML..!!!

For holsters - not in our local area.... You can roll the dice on ebay..?? Sometimes there are a few in the Classifieds on this site as well. Also - Simpson, Shattuck, and some others...

Also - maybe Frank will chip in with some assistance, as I know he's a holster guy, too - along with a bunch of others that hang out here...

John D. · 10-16-2003, 09:39 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by mowzerluvr:
By the way John D, not sure if you are aware but I looked in a productions book today and there were only 54,???. of the "G" codes made. That made my day. Makes it rare in my eyes.<hr /></blockquote>Outstanding!!!! 'Course - now that you are hooked - all of us get to give you our $0.000002 on which one you'll be buying next.. "A man doesn't really live with only "1" Luger in their collection"...

mowzerluvr · 10-16-2003, 09:44 PM

Right. I am tossing around one a friend has for sale, I just posted about it on the forum. It's a "K" code in really nice shape, only made just shy of 11,000 of these. WOW.

mowzerluvr · 10-16-2003, 09:45 PM

John D, where are you from, Im in Manchester.

John D. · 10-16-2003, 09:47 PM

I'm about 40 minutes east of you

Portsmouth...

Now - you are looking at a "K" date?!?!?!?! I've "lusted" over owning one for quite a while..!!!

mowzerluvr · 10-16-2003, 09:55 PM

He told me he would take my "G" date and some cash in trade for it. But I dunno, Im just an average joe..lol and I kinda like my "G" date and it has a matching magazine.

John D. · 10-16-2003, 10:04 PM

Well - keep the "G" and put a deposit on the "K"...

You know you can't have "just one" - besides, your "G" will get lonely.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Anyway - if you are looking for super low/limited production, have you considered Krieghoffs??

Certain years/variations - an estimated 50 produced in particuliar years (and much few numbers are thought to exist for those same years - like 1938 HKs for example)...

(OK - it's a crass plug to get another Krieg guy amongst us

)

mowzerluvr · 10-16-2003, 10:13 PM

That's a possibility, I'll see what he says about that. Credit card has a zero balance too...lol. Not sure on the Krieghoffs, they sound super expensive, unless a flea market yields one up for me. But then again, I have never seen one's markings so I wouldn't know one if it shot at me..lol.

John D. · 10-16-2003, 10:16 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by mowzerluvr:
That's a possibility, I'll see what... Credit card has a zero balance too...lol..<hr /></blockquote>See - a perfect Krieg collector already!!! My Credit cards always have a zero balance..

In fact - I get calls from the Credit card companies to "Leave home without us".

Anyway - if you find one at a flea market locally - call me!! I'd be happy to swing on by and take a look for you.. Heh..!!!

<img border="0" alt="[byebye]" title="" src="graemlins/wave.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

John D. · 10-16-2003, 10:43 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by John D.:
Hey Herb..!!

No codes like "joa"..??? From left to right it has:...<hr /></blockquote>Hey Herb..!

I think I found it... Jan Still, 'THIRD REICH LUGERS", page 40:

"C. HEINICHEN DRESDEN, E/WaA142" Marked with a 1935 date...

Best to you!!!

10-16-2003, 07:54 PM	#1
mowzerluvr User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help with a holster? I have been looking for a holster to match (in date anyway) my "G" code Luger, why do I keep seeing 40,41,or 42 dates but NEVER a 1935? are they really rare? Where is a good place to look for one? any help on this subject will place you on my list of thank you's owed.. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

10-16-2003, 08:02 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,962 Thanks: 2,062 Thanked 4,592 Times in 2,114 Posts	1935's are not common, so you see them, but at high prices. Of course, in reality, it is nice to have one within a year or so, but being issued with a gun, you would see a year earleir or several years later than your gun. all depend son when it was issued from "supply". Personnaly, I try to find a holster that is close, but after the gun was made, but right before it was made would also make sense. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-16-2003, 09:05 PM	#6
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	JD, could it be Carl Heinichen mfg code joa of Dresden? __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

10-16-2003, 09:39 PM	#12
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by mowzerluvr: <strong>By the way John D, not sure if you are aware but I looked in a productions book today and there were only 54,???. of the "G" codes made. That made my day. Makes it rare in my eyes.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Outstanding!!!! 'Course - now that you are hooked - all of us get to give you our $0.000002 on which one you'll be buying next.. "A man doesn't really live with only "1" Luger in their collection"...

10-16-2003, 10:16 PM	#19
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by mowzerluvr: <strong>That's a possibility, I'll see what... Credit card has a zero balance too...lol..</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">See - a perfect Krieg collector already!!! My Credit cards always have a zero balance.. In fact - I get calls from the Credit card companies to "Leave home without us". Anyway - if you find one at a flea market locally - call me!! I'd be happy to swing on by and take a look for you.. Heh..!!! <img border="0" alt="[byebye]" title="" src="graemlins/wave.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

10-16-2003, 08:28 PM	#3
mowzerluvr User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I hear ya. I got one today, it is mostly mint shape other than the fact that the straps were removed and a 4 rivet square of leather with a weapons belt hook was attached. I have seen one other and it was a Norweigen army conversion. Mine has a Lederwarenwerk, Curt Vogel stamp on the back but can't see the date. I have seen some 36's but never yet seen a 35. Thanks for the reply.

10-16-2003, 08:32 PM	#4
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Hmmmm - I was just checking the holster that my G date is in (I bought it for my Dad when I was 18). It's proofed - dated 1935.. Looks like DRESDEN on the stamp, but I can't make out the name or the WaAProof Number? I'll try Bob's baby powder trick later - and see what I can see.... Hope this helps! John

10-16-2003, 08:40 PM	#5
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Well - I just tried baby powder... Here you go: WaA 14 and a little "2" or maybe 142 - it's really hard to see, to be honest. I'll try tomorrow... And take a pic.. Makers name: "C????HEN" Looks like DRESDEN has a little "." at the end... Anyone know? I'm not a holster guy..???

10-16-2003, 09:08 PM	#7
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Hey Herb..!! No codes like "joa"..??? From left to right it has: C????HEN (droop Eagle) DRESDEN. WaA142 1935 Still not sure if it's 142 or 14 "little 2"??? Make sense??? Thanks for the assist!!!! (Edit by Johnd. I'll try a pic in a minute - BUT it will be lousy - as there is no daylight!!! )

10-16-2003, 09:27 PM	#8
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Here is a VERY rough pic (it's the best I can do under room lights..??!!)... Shows placement, date, etc...

10-16-2003, 09:34 PM	#9
mowzerluvr User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That is an awesome help John D, does anyone know anyplace that sells holsters, or a good place to look for one?

10-16-2003, 09:36 PM	#10
mowzerluvr User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	By the way John D, not sure if you are aware but I looked in a productions book today and there were only 54,???. of the "G" codes made. That made my day. Makes it rare in my eyes.

10-16-2003, 09:37 PM	#11
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Thanks ML..!!! For holsters - not in our local area.... You can roll the dice on ebay..?? Sometimes there are a few in the Classifieds on this site as well. Also - Simpson, Shattuck, and some others... Also - maybe Frank will chip in with some assistance, as I know he's a holster guy, too - along with a bunch of others that hang out here...

10-16-2003, 09:44 PM	#13
mowzerluvr User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Right. I am tossing around one a friend has for sale, I just posted about it on the forum. It's a "K" code in really nice shape, only made just shy of 11,000 of these. WOW.

10-16-2003, 09:45 PM	#14
mowzerluvr User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	John D, where are you from, Im in Manchester.

10-16-2003, 09:47 PM	#15
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	I'm about 40 minutes east of you Portsmouth... Now - you are looking at a "K" date?!?!?!?! I've "lusted" over owning one for quite a while..!!!

10-16-2003, 09:55 PM	#16
mowzerluvr User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	He told me he would take my "G" date and some cash in trade for it. But I dunno, Im just an average joe..lol and I kinda like my "G" date and it has a matching magazine.

10-16-2003, 10:04 PM	#17
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Well - keep the "G" and put a deposit on the "K"... You know you can't have "just one" - besides, your "G" will get lonely.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Anyway - if you are looking for super low/limited production, have you considered Krieghoffs?? Certain years/variations - an estimated 50 produced in particuliar years (and much few numbers are thought to exist for those same years - like 1938 HKs for example)... (OK - it's a crass plug to get another Krieg guy amongst us )

10-16-2003, 10:13 PM	#18
mowzerluvr User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That's a possibility, I'll see what he says about that. Credit card has a zero balance too...lol. Not sure on the Krieghoffs, they sound super expensive, unless a flea market yields one up for me. But then again, I have never seen one's markings so I wouldn't know one if it shot at me..lol.

10-16-2003, 10:43 PM	#20
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by John D.: <strong>Hey Herb..!! No codes like "joa"..??? From left to right it has:...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Hey Herb..! I think I found it... Jan Still, 'THIRD REICH LUGERS", page 40: "C. HEINICHEN DRESDEN, E/WaA142" Marked with a 1935 date... Best to you!!!