P.08 #98

MFC · 04-09-2022, 12:27 AM

I picked up this 08 First Issue at Tulsa this past weekend. S#98 no suffix. all matching including mag. It was a really good show for me. I sold 4 Luger rigs and an early slotted Radam. I had a wad of cash, so I went hunting.

DonVoigt · 04-09-2022, 12:41 AM

Nice find; about as early as one could find!

MFC · 04-09-2022, 01:10 AM

more pics...

Pistol · 04-09-2022, 07:46 AM

Beautiful luger.

sheepherder · 04-09-2022, 11:13 AM

I have a question...

Do you think a low number/no-suffix is more valuable than a comparable Luger, same era, same condition, with ser # 1736f ???

Did you/would you, pay more just to get that low # 98 no-suffix???

hayhugh · 04-09-2022, 12:35 PM

You can bet on it..........

wlyon · 04-09-2022, 01:10 PM

No. The historical significance does not change with a high or low serial number. This is strictly a production number. Again this is a individual collectors thing. If you like low numbers fine. I would not pay a dime more for it. Very nice luger. Bill

Edward Tinker · 04-09-2022, 03:55 PM

Agree with you Bill, but an early item makes me go, oh, baby, baby

This is an outstanding specimen

gunbugs · 04-09-2022, 08:35 PM

Nice gun. No holdopen. Unaltered, with a nice regiment stamp on the gripstrap. And probably one of the earliest serial numbers you could find. Sure, I'd pay more for that pistol over a later one.

Heinz · 04-09-2022, 09:00 PM

Very nice find, nice pistol

sheepherder · 04-09-2022, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wlyon

No. The historical significance does not change with a high or low serial number. This is strictly a production number. Again this is a individual collectors thing. If you like low numbers fine. I would not pay a dime more for it. Very nice luger. Bill

I agree with Bill. Same applies to my Savage .32 auto with ser # 1234. Just a number, denotes nothing.

But I'm not a collector. I just accumulate.

But I will keep in mind that my low-number 1900AE is worth more.

Now, if you could link the low number 98 to the machine gun company on the grip, that would be interesting. Maybe find a posed pic of the gun crew, and a letter assigning the gun to that crew, and make up a rig to go with it and a diorama showing all the stuff together, with a helmet and belt etc...That would be money...

MFC · 04-10-2022, 01:08 AM

It is one of the first 100 P.08s made! To some that's worth more... including me. I certainly paid a premium for it. I haven't seen are heard of a lower serial number P.08, but I'm sure they are out there.

Thanks for all the responses.

ithacaartist · 04-10-2022, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

I agree with Bill. Same applies to my Savage .32 auto with ser # 1234. Just a number, denotes nothing.

Reminds me of when William Mattar's Luger made an appearance on the forum... #4444

MFC · 04-10-2022, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist

Reminds me of when William Mattar's Luger made an appearance on the forum... #4444

I have an orphan wood bottom mag w/#4444.

minigun · 04-10-2022, 08:59 AM

This must be the Luger I heard about that was at Tulsa after I left. Glad I get to see it as I thought I had missed it. You never know what pops up at Tulsa!

sheepherder · 04-10-2022, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MFC

I have an orphan wood bottom mag w/#4444.

The Luger doesn't really belong to William Mattar. Mattar is an attorney here in WNY whose TV ad/jingo is "Hurt in a car? Call William Mattar. 716-444-4444".

Kind of a regional joke. For those of us with a peculiar sense of humor.

Off topic, the local Target cell phone salesman uses Mattar's phone number to check that the new phone sale works - He calls 716-444-4444 and makes sure that Mattar's recording answers.

But there's dozens of #4444 Lugers. Maybe someone will see your post and contact you.

LU1900 · 04-12-2022, 08:24 AM

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MFC · 04-13-2022, 11:07 PM

Patrice,
Thanks for the photo. I'm sure they were together at DWM and on the battlefield.

G.T. · 04-13-2022, 11:55 PM

Hi Mike, I think you really scored tall with this one! Super early, super nice, and un-altered....Just that one pistol is a collection all by itself to me! I have found the early number in a variation is still important, especially as a bargaining chip when selling... Early numbers when taking the whole life of a specific design a little better. As in, the first 100 model 1900's would carry a little more weight, but not much! You really have a keeper there... best to you my friend, til...lat'r...GT....

MFC · 04-14-2022, 09:31 PM

G.T.,
Thanks, it seems I'm growing fonder of it each day.
The German Army purchased over 1.5 million Lugers from 1909 to 1942. To be in the first 100, IS the reason I bought it. I wasn't really looking for a First Issue, but when I saw it, the condition, unaltered, matched mag... etc. I thought, when will I ever see another comparable to it?

A few more pics of the S#'s and acceptance stamps and one of the bore.

04-09-2022, 12:41 AM	#2
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,356 Times in 2,041 Posts	Nice find; about as early as one could find! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

04-09-2022, 11:13 AM	#5
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,208 Thanks: 1,425 Thanked 4,474 Times in 2,343 Posts	I have a question... Do you think a low number/no-suffix is more valuable than a comparable Luger, same era, same condition, with ser # 1736f ??? Did you/would you, pay more just to get that low # 98 no-suffix??? __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

04-09-2022, 01:10 PM	#7
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,673 Thanks: 3,243 Thanked 2,656 Times in 988 Posts	No. The historical significance does not change with a high or low serial number. This is strictly a production number. Again this is a individual collectors thing. If you like low numbers fine. I would not pay a dime more for it. Very nice luger. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

04-10-2022, 01:08 AM	#12
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	It is one of the first 100 P.08s made! To some that's worth more... including me. I certainly paid a premium for it. I haven't seen are heard of a lower serial number P.08, but I'm sure they are out there. Thanks for all the responses. __________________ Mike C.

04-13-2022, 11:07 PM	#18
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Patrice, Thanks for the photo. I'm sure they were together at DWM and on the battlefield. __________________ Mike C.

04-09-2022, 07:46 AM	#4
Pistol User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA - TN Posts: 435 Thanks: 467 Thanked 223 Times in 102 Posts	Beautiful luger.

04-09-2022, 12:35 PM	#6
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 898 Thanks: 892 Thanked 514 Times in 276 Posts	You can bet on it..........

04-09-2022, 03:55 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,974 Thanks: 2,072 Thanked 4,607 Times in 2,123 Posts	Agree with you Bill, but an early item makes me go, oh, baby, baby This is an outstanding specimen

04-09-2022, 08:35 PM	#9
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 681 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,227 Times in 414 Posts	Nice gun. No holdopen. Unaltered, with a nice regiment stamp on the gripstrap. And probably one of the earliest serial numbers you could find. Sure, I'd pay more for that pistol over a later one.

04-09-2022, 09:00 PM	#10
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 411 Times in 180 Posts	Very nice find, nice pistol

04-10-2022, 08:59 AM	#15
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 425 Thanks: 16 Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts	This must be the Luger I heard about that was at Tulsa after I left. Glad I get to see it as I thought I had missed it. You never know what pops up at Tulsa!

04-13-2022, 11:55 PM	#19
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,540 Thanks: 1,342 Thanked 3,734 Times in 1,019 Posts	super nice! Hi Mike, I think you really scored tall with this one! Super early, super nice, and un-altered....Just that one pistol is a collection all by itself to me! I have found the early number in a variation is still important, especially as a bargaining chip when selling... Early numbers when taking the whole life of a specific design a little better. As in, the first 100 model 1900's would carry a little more weight, but not much! You really have a keeper there... best to you my friend, til...lat'r...GT....