Portuguese sidearm today ?

ichabod · 12-09-2002, 09:32 PM

Does the Portuguese military still carry the P.08 as a standard siderarm ?

Lugerdoc · 12-10-2002, 08:12 AM

According to Buxton's Vol 3, they carried a variety of P38s post WW2. I'm not sure what they are using now. Tom H.

John Sabato · 12-10-2002, 12:41 PM

I think the answer to this question should be found in the current release of Janes' Infantry Weapons reference... anyone spend any time in their local library?

ichabod · 12-10-2002, 10:00 PM

Wow ! My info is way out of date - thanks ya'll.

Edward Tinker · 12-11-2002, 07:18 AM

All I could find was that they used the FN HP35 and the P1 (post WW2 P-38) after the war and is believed to still be using, but the rest of the information is in Portuguese and I'm a bit rusty....

Marvin · 12-11-2002, 12:11 PM

When did the Portuguese stop using the Lugers they purchased from Germany in 1943? I bought one of the rigs that Bob Adams has for sale and they are really nice with the phosphate finish. I wondered when these went into reserve with Portugal and thought one of you guys may know.

Marvin

Edward Tinker · 12-11-2002, 12:19 PM

Marvin (HEY!), I just don't know, would be interesting to hear how and when?

The little I read on the internet, said that the P38, then the P1? So I just don't know.

Very little post war info out there, guess we should write a book on it.

Kyrie · 12-11-2002, 12:35 PM

Hi Folks!

According to the 1999-2000 Edition of Ã¢??JaneÃ¢??s Infantry WeaponsÃ¢?Â, Portugal has the following pistol in inventory:

9 mm Walther P1
9 mm FN 35
9 mm H&K VP70M

Warm regards,

Kyrie

Marvin · 12-12-2002, 11:14 AM

Thanks for the information on what Portugal is currently using.

Just as speculation, if Portugal has the P-1, FN35 and the H&K in stock, the H&K seems to be the newest. IF this is the case, the P-1 and the FN35 are the older of the three and would be the reserve pistols. The FN35 may have been replaced by the P-1 in the 1960s after the German contracts were fulfilled and then replaced by the H&K.

If any of the above happens to be correct, I would suppose that the Lugers may have been replaced in service in the mid to late 1950s, and stored as reserves. I seem to remember that they were released to the market in the early 1980s; probably when the H&K pistol was issued.

This is all pure speculation and just random thoughts ONLY. DO NOT take any of the above as fact, it is just rambling thoughts!!!!!!!!!!!!

Marvin

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Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	According to Buxton's Vol 3, they carried a variety of P38s post WW2. I'm not sure what they are using now. Tom H. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

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John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	I think the answer to this question should be found in the current release of Janes' Infantry Weapons reference... anyone spend any time in their local library? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

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ichabod User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wow ! My info is way out of date - thanks ya'll. __________________ "No snowflake ever feels responsible for the avalanche." Haywood Yasumi

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,995 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	All I could find was that they used the FN HP35 and the P1 (post WW2 P-38) after the war and is believed to still be using, but the rest of the information is in Portuguese and I'm a bit rusty.... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-11-2002, 12:11 PM	#6
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	When did the Portuguese stop using the Lugers they purchased from Germany in 1943? I bought one of the rigs that Bob Adams has for sale and they are really nice with the phosphate finish. I wondered when these went into reserve with Portugal and thought one of you guys may know. Marvin

12-11-2002, 12:19 PM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,995 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	Marvin (HEY!), I just don't know, would be interesting to hear how and when? The little I read on the internet, said that the P38, then the P1? So I just don't know. Very little post war info out there, guess we should write a book on it. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-11-2002, 12:35 PM	#8
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Hi Folks! According to the 1999-2000 Edition of Ã¢??JaneÃ¢??s Infantry WeaponsÃ¢?Â, Portugal has the following pistol in inventory: 9 mm Walther P1 9 mm FN 35 9 mm H&K VP70M Warm regards, Kyrie

12-12-2002, 11:14 AM	#9
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the information on what Portugal is currently using. Just as speculation, if Portugal has the P-1, FN35 and the H&K in stock, the H&K seems to be the newest. IF this is the case, the P-1 and the FN35 are the older of the three and would be the reserve pistols. The FN35 may have been replaced by the P-1 in the 1960s after the German contracts were fulfilled and then replaced by the H&K. If any of the above happens to be correct, I would suppose that the Lugers may have been replaced in service in the mid to late 1950s, and stored as reserves. I seem to remember that they were released to the market in the early 1980s; probably when the H&K pistol was issued. This is all pure speculation and just random thoughts ONLY. DO NOT take any of the above as fact, it is just rambling thoughts!!!!!!!!!!!! Marvin