Germany barrels

Edward Tinker · 06-22-2018, 03:42 PM

A friend of mine went and helped an older gentleman on some assorted lugers - I should let him tell it, but my recollection of it was 3 or 4 artillerys and a couple of military 9mm 4'.
He said that they were all fairly rough and mismatched, in addition to likely have been basement gunsmith barrel added (he could see rough markings on an artillery barrel)

One of the artillerys was missing a firing pin, spring and retainer. The older guy had some assorted parts, couple of barrels, etc.
My friend told me about it and asked if I had an extra firing pin, retainer, spring and I said, sure.

A few days later two barrels arrived. I call them the attic look. VERY dry, and bluing just seems a tiny bit off color. I oiled them several times and now they look just about new but would not surprise me if they dry out a bit. I think new old stock?

**If after the war, would they have been marked 'made in german"?
****If recent, would they have been marked at all?

Ron Wood · 06-22-2018, 05:55 PM

Stepped chamber?

LU1900 · 06-22-2018, 07:17 PM

Some have chamber not finish to adapt for the luger : chamber too short on few I see

Edward Tinker · 06-22-2018, 07:34 PM

Unsure Ron?

9mm fits right in, 7.65mm falls inside.

g5m · 06-23-2018, 12:00 AM

Those certainly look nice.

Ron Wood · 06-23-2018, 03:27 AM

Ed,
If it is an original DWM 9mm barrel you can see the step in the chamber.

adowns · 06-23-2018, 06:54 AM

Ron Wood... this is a great picture that clearly shows the stepped chamber.

sheepherder · 06-23-2018, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adowns

Ron Wood... this is a great picture that clearly shows the stepped chamber.

Maybe it could be included in the FAQ??? (If it's not already).

Ron Wood · 06-23-2018, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adowns

Ron Wood... this is a great picture that clearly shows the stepped chamber.

Thank you...I wish I could take credit for it but it is a photo that I came across (perhaps on this forum) that I copied for my reference. I like to save stuff like this to use for illustrating details, as in this tread.
Ron

G.T. · 06-23-2018, 09:59 PM

The "MADE IN GERMANY" marked barrels are in general, pretty good, some batches better than others? On just about all of them, the front sight dovetail is too big, allowing for the sight blade to move loosely about.... Worse yet, some of them have a too small front sight base platform to where the sight hangs over front and back?... Most of them tighten up and index well and all is in alignment. I also like that the threads are cut to the shoulder like originals, and not into a recess behind the flange like most reproductions... Where and when they came into the country, I don't know, but there has been a bunch of them show up in the last few years... I always have three or four on hand... They shoot well... best to all, til...lat'r.....GT

Sieger · 06-24-2018, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

Unsure Ron?

9mm fits right in, 7.65mm falls inside.

Ed,

Don't fire those cartridges, as they are corrosive!!!

Ed, we have seen this exact type of barrel before. Do you remember my earlier post?

Sieger

Edward Tinker · 06-24-2018, 01:01 AM

....Ed,

Don't fire those cartridges, as they are corrosive!!!
yawn - okay - was an example, but corrosive cartridges simply require warm water

Ed, we have seen this exact type of barrel before. Do you remember my earlier post?

no, will go look

Sieger · 06-24-2018, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

Ed,
If it is an original DWM 9mm barrel you can see the step in the chamber.

Ron,

These look like some after market barrels I bought in the 1990's

These knockoffs did NOT have the original DWM designed step chamber.

Otherwise, quality seemed fairly good.

Sieger

Sieger · 06-24-2018, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

....Ed,

Don't fire those cartridges, as they are corrosive!!!
yawn - okay - was an example, but corrosive cartridges simply require warm water

Ed, we have seen this exact type of barrel before. Do you remember my earlier post?

no, will go look

Ed,

True, if the shooter realizes they are corrosive quickly enough.

Sieger

Rick W. · 06-24-2018, 10:49 AM

The picture would be nice stored in a sticky, perhaps even the part of the dwg that shows a portion of the exact dimensional info of said vintage chamber.

Ron Wood · 06-24-2018, 09:25 PM

Drawing with step outlined

06-22-2018, 03:42 PM	#1
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,962 Thanks: 2,063 Thanked 4,592 Times in 2,114 Posts	Germany barrels A friend of mine went and helped an older gentleman on some assorted lugers - I should let him tell it, but my recollection of it was 3 or 4 artillerys and a couple of military 9mm 4'. He said that they were all fairly rough and mismatched, in addition to likely have been basement gunsmith barrel added (he could see rough markings on an artillery barrel) One of the artillerys was missing a firing pin, spring and retainer. The older guy had some assorted parts, couple of barrels, etc. My friend told me about it and asked if I had an extra firing pin, retainer, spring and I said, sure. A few days later two barrels arrived. I call them the attic look. VERY dry, and bluing just seems a tiny bit off color. I oiled them several times and now they look just about new but would not surprise me if they dry out a bit. I think new old stock? If after the war, would they have been marked 'made in german"? **If recent, would they have been marked at all? Attached Thumbnails

06-22-2018, 05:55 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	Stepped chamber? __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-22-2018, 07:17 PM	#3
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 911 Thanks: 46 Thanked 471 Times in 198 Posts	Some have chamber not finish to adapt for the luger : chamber too short on few I see __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

06-22-2018, 07:34 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,962 Thanks: 2,063 Thanked 4,592 Times in 2,114 Posts	Unsure Ron? 9mm fits right in, 7.65mm falls inside. Attached Thumbnails

06-23-2018, 03:27 AM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	Ed, If it is an original DWM 9mm barrel you can see the step in the chamber. Attached Images __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-23-2018, 12:00 AM	#5
g5m User Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: desert Posts: 36 Thanks: 23 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Those certainly look nice.

06-23-2018, 06:54 AM	#7
adowns User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 15 Thanks: 21 Thanked 18 Times in 7 Posts	Ron Wood... this is a great picture that clearly shows the stepped chamber.

06-23-2018, 09:59 PM	#10
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,525 Thanks: 1,321 Thanked 3,709 Times in 1,013 Posts	Made in Germany barrels The "MADE IN GERMANY" marked barrels are in general, pretty good, some batches better than others? On just about all of them, the front sight dovetail is too big, allowing for the sight blade to move loosely about.... Worse yet, some of them have a too small front sight base platform to where the sight hangs over front and back?... Most of them tighten up and index well and all is in alignment. I also like that the threads are cut to the shoulder like originals, and not into a recess behind the flange like most reproductions... Where and when they came into the country, I don't know, but there has been a bunch of them show up in the last few years... I always have three or four on hand... They shoot well... best to all, til...lat'r.....GT

06-24-2018, 01:01 AM	#12
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,962 Thanks: 2,063 Thanked 4,592 Times in 2,114 Posts	....Ed, Don't fire those cartridges, as they are corrosive!!! yawn - okay - was an example, but corrosive cartridges simply require warm water Ed, we have seen this exact type of barrel before. Do you remember my earlier post? *no, will go look*

06-24-2018, 10:49 AM	#15
Rick W. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 339 Thanks: 81 Thanked 359 Times in 198 Posts	The picture would be nice stored in a sticky, perhaps even the part of the dwg that shows a portion of the exact dimensional info of said vintage chamber.

06-24-2018, 09:25 PM	#16
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	Drawing with step outlined Attached Thumbnails __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction