Are there imperials with no letter suffix?

Sky Zero · 08-23-2017, 11:29 PM

Tried to find something about it but couldn't quite, I think. Did they manufacture wartime DWMs no letter suffix with the serial?

DavidJayUden · 08-23-2017, 11:43 PM

Correct me if I am wrong, but the first lot starting at 0001 up thru 9999 would be given no suffix, whereas the next group that size would be suffixed "A".
At least that is my understanding.
dju

Edward Tinker · 08-24-2017, 12:22 AM

That is what I have always read

"a" suffix would be 1a equals serial number 10,001
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NOTE - it states this in the FAQ .
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kurusu · 08-24-2017, 03:57 AM

Just to completely rest your mind about it. I have a 1916 no letter.

It is not used as a shooter.

Bluff Lake 36 · 08-24-2017, 08:37 AM

I have 1916 DWM #279a

George Anderson · 08-24-2017, 09:34 AM

I have the following Imperial P08s and LP08s without letter suffixes: 1908, 1914, 1915(2), 1917, 1918.

DonVoigt · 08-24-2017, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky Zero

Tried to find something about it but couldn't quite, I think. Did they manufacture wartime DWMs no letter suffix with the serial?

Yes,
each year started over with 1-10,000 and no suffix.

Sky Zero · 08-24-2017, 10:52 AM

Thank you, gentleman! I thought that's how the numbering worked but wasn't sure if I was interpreting the system correctly

mrerick · 08-24-2017, 11:17 AM

Don't forget that DWM commercial pistols from that era don't have letter suffixes either. Numeric only 1 to 5 digits.

Neither do Swiss Lugers. They are numeric only. 1 to 5 digits except for a small number in the "v" and "u" blocks made by Mauser.

ithacaartist · 08-24-2017, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Anderson

I have the following Imperial P08s and LP08s without letter suffixes: 1908, 1914, 1915(2), 1917, 1918.

George, is the 1908 Arty a prototype or early commercial of some sort? Generally, their main production began around 1914, right? Love to see a pic of it!

Sky Zero · 08-24-2017, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrerick

Don't forget that DWM commercial pistols from that era don't have letter suffixes either. Numeric only 1 to 5 digits.

Neither do Swiss Lugers. They are numeric only. 1 to 5 digits except for a small number in the "v" and "u" blocks made by Mauser.

Good to know! The one I saw was a 1916

George Anderson · 08-24-2017, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

George, is the 1908 Arty a prototype or early commercial of some sort? Generally, their main production began around 1914, right? Love to see a pic of it!

The 1908 is a P08. The LP08s are a 1914, 1915 and 1918.

ithacaartist · 08-24-2017, 09:43 PM

I see, yes. Pardon the senior reading moment!

MFC · 09-01-2017, 12:27 AM

There are also a few Swiss Commercials in the 'i' block.

kurusu · 09-01-2017, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurusu

Just to completely rest your mind about it. I have a 1916 no letter.

It is not used as a shooter.

Er.

Brain fart here. My no letter is a 1915.

Pistol · 09-01-2017, 04:30 PM

With all conditions the same, would a non suffix have any more value than one with a letter?

DonVoigt · 09-01-2017, 04:59 PM

No. JMHO.

Norme · 09-01-2017, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pistol

With all conditions the same, would a non suffix have any more value than one with a letter?

No.

cirelaw · 09-01-2017, 05:09 PM

1914 DWM Artillery~

Sky Zero · 09-01-2017, 08:43 PM

Beautiful!!

08-23-2017, 11:29 PM	#1
Sky Zero User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 308 Thanks: 134 Thanked 43 Times in 30 Posts	Are there imperials with no letter suffix? Tried to find something about it but couldn't quite, I think. Did they manufacture wartime DWMs no letter suffix with the serial?

08-24-2017, 12:22 AM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,960 Thanks: 2,062 Thanked 4,591 Times in 2,114 Posts	That is what I have always read "a" suffix would be 1a equals serial number 10,001 . NOTE - it states this in the FAQ . . __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,919 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	Don't forget that DWM commercial pistols from that era don't have letter suffixes either. Numeric only 1 to 5 digits. Neither do Swiss Lugers. They are numeric only. 1 to 5 digits except for a small number in the "v" and "u" blocks made by Mauser. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Correct me if I am wrong, but the first lot starting at 0001 up thru 9999 would be given no suffix, whereas the next group that size would be suffixed "A". At least that is my understanding. dju

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kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 930 Times in 509 Posts	Just to completely rest your mind about it. I have a 1916 no letter. It is not used as a shooter.

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08-24-2017, 09:34 AM	#6
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	I have the following Imperial P08s and LP08s without letter suffixes: 1908, 1914, 1915(2), 1917, 1918.

08-24-2017, 10:52 AM	#8
Sky Zero User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 308 Thanks: 134 Thanked 43 Times in 30 Posts	Thank you, gentleman! I thought that's how the numbering worked but wasn't sure if I was interpreting the system correctly

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Sky Zero User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 308 Thanks: 134 Thanked 43 Times in 30 Posts	Beautiful!!