Value Request 1918 DWM Luger with sear safety, not double dated

nexgen91 · 05-10-2017, 10:30 AM

Sorry if this is in the wrong place, please move if needed:

Numbers matching (except mag floorplate) non import marked 1918 DWM Luger in 9mm with all original finish with about 60-70% blueing maybe 2-5% straw. The bore is a little frosted in the grooves, but is in overall good condition with strong rifling. The grips have never been refinished and are in good condition. The metal is all original and never been refinished. The magazine is also a WWI era original magazine with wooden floorplate. The number is faint, but is not matching to the pistol serial number. Appears that this has a sear safety (which I assume would have to indicate Police rework) but not double dated, and I dont see any police markings in the photos. Thank you.

Photos: http://imgur.com/a/gebij

DavidJayUden · 05-10-2017, 11:10 AM

I'd base it around $1000 give or take $100, but there are variables such as full retail from a brick and mortar store vs. internet, collector to collector, region of the country, etc. What do you think?
dju

Edward Tinker · 05-10-2017, 12:16 PM

Welcome to the forum - please post pictures here, not hosted off site.

60-70% sounds a bit rough, but again, pictures would help, but many work environments don't allow us to go to imgur or other hosted sites

See our FAQ - it might help, but let me comment on a few things

double date - usually a date and a 1920 gov't property marking, not a rework
Police with sear safety, not necessarily a rework

not in the photos - is this not yours?

nexgen91 · 05-10-2017, 12:49 PM

more photos (some might be duplicates sorry) its mine but still waiting to pick it up, just didnt think to upload photos to here

Edward Tinker · 05-10-2017, 12:52 PM

thanks

It is a well worn, but not abused 1918 - I think Davids price is about right, perhaps a bit more, $1200 perhaps, depending on what someone is looking for. Its a bit worn to be considered a collectable, but if all matching, it is by definition a collectable.

Ed

nexgen91 · 05-10-2017, 12:58 PM

Thank you Ed and David, so does $1150 out the door sound likea fair price?

Edward Tinker · 05-10-2017, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nexgen91

Thank you Ed and David, so does $1150 out the door sound likea fair price?

I would not pay that much for one - as there are nicer ones for around the same price.

I'd want it for $800-$900 at the most....

Sky Zero · 05-10-2017, 01:32 PM

I concur with Ed and DJU

nexgen91 · 05-10-2017, 02:00 PM

Am I right to assume any luger with sear safety has seen police service or at least been modified for such service, and that this was never added by military?

Edward Tinker · 05-10-2017, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nexgen91

Am I right to assume any luger with sear safety has seen police service or at least been modified for such service, and that this was never added by military?

It is a police ONLY item - although some police lugers went into army service - but they were called police - remember that german police at that time were not as police are considered today, the county police would be much more like our police, while many others were very militaristic in nature.

nexgen91 · 05-10-2017, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

It is a police ONLY item - although some police lugers went into army service - but they were called police - remember that german police at that time were not as police are considered today, the county police would be much more like our police, while many others were very militaristic in nature.

Ah I see, thank you sir.

mrerick · 05-10-2017, 04:01 PM

At this level of finish wear (below 80%) Lugers tend to attract much less collector interest, and be relegated to shooter status.

I think $1K is about right.

DavidJayUden · 05-10-2017, 04:15 PM

To answer your question, $1150 does not seem unfair. A bit high, but not outrageous. We all overpay occasionally, it's just part of collecting vs. pure business. Sometimes these things just choose us.
dju

sheepherder · 05-10-2017, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

To answer your question, $1150 does not seem unfair.

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Originally Posted by mrerick

I think $1K is about right.

Again, as stated, location/point of sale is a factor. Things like FFL receiver fee, state tax, shipping charges, registration fee can all add to the final price.

A $1,000 Luger will end up as a $1,150 Luger where I live, if bought within my state and shipped to a local dealer (for instance, a gun show sale).

nexgen91 · 05-10-2017, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

To answer your question, $1150 does not seem unfair. A bit high, but not outrageous. We all overpay occasionally, it's just part of collecting vs. pure business. Sometimes these things just choose us.
dju

Thank you David, I appreciate it. Advisable to not shoot it or can I "funtion check" it without feeling bad?

DonVoigt · 05-10-2017, 08:03 PM

It might sell for $800; at $1150 it will be a very slow sale-if at all. JMHO.

Sky Zero · 05-10-2017, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

Again, as stated, location/point of sale is a factor. Things like FFL receiver fee, state tax, shipping charges, registration fee can all add to the final price.

A $1,000 Luger will end up as a $1,150 Luger where I live, if bought within my state and shipped to a local dealer (for instance, a gun show sale).

Michigan?

05-10-2017, 10:30 AM	#1
nexgen91 User Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Value Request 1918 DWM Luger with sear safety, not double dated Sorry if this is in the wrong place, please move if needed: Numbers matching (except mag floorplate) non import marked 1918 DWM Luger in 9mm with all original finish with about 60-70% blueing maybe 2-5% straw. The bore is a little frosted in the grooves, but is in overall good condition with strong rifling. The grips have never been refinished and are in good condition. The metal is all original and never been refinished. The magazine is also a WWI era original magazine with wooden floorplate. The number is faint, but is not matching to the pistol serial number. Appears that this has a sear safety (which I assume would have to indicate Police rework) but not double dated, and I dont see any police markings in the photos. Thank you. Photos: http://imgur.com/a/gebij Attached Thumbnails Last edited by nexgen91; 05-10-2017 at 12:46 PM.

05-10-2017, 12:16 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	Welcome to the forum - please post pictures here, not hosted off site. 60-70% sounds a bit rough, but again, pictures would help, but many work environments don't allow us to go to imgur or other hosted sites See our FAQ - it might help, but let me comment on a few things double date - usually a date and a 1920 gov't property marking, not a rework Police with sear safety, not necessarily a rework not in the photos - is this not yours? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-10-2017, 12:49 PM	#4
nexgen91 User Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	more photos (some might be duplicates sorry) its mine but still waiting to pick it up, just didnt think to upload photos to here Attached Thumbnails

05-10-2017, 04:01 PM	#12
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	At this level of finish wear (below 80%) Lugers tend to attract much less collector interest, and be relegated to shooter status. I think $1K is about right. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

05-10-2017, 08:03 PM	#16
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,678 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	It might sell for $800; at $1150 it will be a very slow sale-if at all. JMHO. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

05-10-2017, 11:10 AM	#2
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I'd base it around $1000 give or take $100, but there are variables such as full retail from a brick and mortar store vs. internet, collector to collector, region of the country, etc. What do you think? dju

05-10-2017, 12:52 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	thanks It is a well worn, but not abused 1918 - I think Davids price is about right, perhaps a bit more, $1200 perhaps, depending on what someone is looking for. Its a bit worn to be considered a collectable, but if all matching, it is by definition a collectable. Ed

05-10-2017, 12:58 PM	#6
nexgen91 User Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you Ed and David, so does $1150 out the door sound likea fair price?

05-10-2017, 01:32 PM	#8
Sky Zero User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 308 Thanks: 134 Thanked 43 Times in 30 Posts	I concur with Ed and DJU

05-10-2017, 02:00 PM	#9
nexgen91 User Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Am I right to assume any luger with sear safety has seen police service or at least been modified for such service, and that this was never added by military?

05-10-2017, 04:15 PM	#13
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	To answer your question, $1150 does not seem unfair. A bit high, but not outrageous. We all overpay occasionally, it's just part of collecting vs. pure business. Sometimes these things just choose us. dju