Enhanced hand grenade

Curly1 · 09-19-2016, 01:56 PM

http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/09...nced-hand.html

kurusu · 09-19-2016, 04:34 PM

That looks like a good solution for a non existing problem. I'll bet that it's going to get mishandled under stress.

It's cost effective all right. If you don't count human life in the cost.

Zorba · 09-20-2016, 11:49 AM

Electronic.

spacecoast · 09-20-2016, 01:01 PM

It was interesting to learn that current hand grenades are not ambidextrous.

DonVoigt · 09-20-2016, 02:03 PM

Let me think- battery and electronics in a hand grenade?
No thanks.

kurusu · 09-20-2016, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Let me think- battery and electronics in a hand grenade?
No thanks.

Agree.

Zorba · 09-20-2016, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zorba

Electronic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Let me think- battery and electronics in a hand grenade?
No thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurusu

Agree.

Exactly. There are a LOT of things that shouldn't have electronics, much less batteries in them - I'd think a hand grenade would be near the top of the list!

DonVoigt · 09-20-2016, 07:58 PM

Our government dollars at foolish work!

KABAR2 · 09-20-2016, 11:47 PM

The military stockpiles munitions a grenade made and stored 10 or 20 years ago will when the mechanical fuse is set in motion go BOOM! Can the same be said for this new electronic fuse? Sometimes re-enventing the wheel can leave you flat.

MikeP · 09-21-2016, 02:36 AM

Some standard munitions, like grenades, and even ammo have a defined "shelf life."
Some of it does become unreliable with age and storage.

I remember receiving notices to sort through our stored goodies and picking certain things by lot number and blowing them up.
LAWs did not stand up to the climate for one example.
We'd blow them after they had been dragged around awhile.

Eugen · 09-21-2016, 09:22 AM

Golly, first the feds take the lead out of gasoline and now they are taking the asbestos out of hand grenades. I mean really what is next?! A kinder, eco friendly explosive?

Vlim · 09-21-2016, 10:00 AM

And no wifi...

DonVoigt · 09-21-2016, 12:16 PM

One EMP and Poof! No hand grenades.

Ron Wood · 09-21-2016, 01:50 PM

Another "solution" in search of a problem.

Arizona Slim · 09-21-2016, 05:03 PM

All this talk about frag grenades reminds me of the time during my military days when, one day, we got an anonymous call that someone had taken a grenade out of a case, pulled the pin and put the grenade back in the cardboard sleeve and placed it back in the wooden crate. The CWO3, Chief Warrant Officer, that I reported to and I went out to the location were we stored a three day supply of ammunition to supply one Battle Group in the event we were called up.. I was in the 101st Airborne at that time which consisted of five Battle Groups and a Support Group. The Warrant Officer pried the lid off the first case we came to, looked in and right away spotted the grenade without the pin. Don't know if the clown that did that was ever caught but never assumed anything after that.

Lon

Olle · 09-22-2016, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt

One EMP and Poof! No hand grenades.

Or even worse: One EMP and they all go bang...

flydive · 09-26-2016, 07:54 AM

Battery thermal runaway?

conehammer · 09-28-2016, 11:14 PM

The expression "KISS" was invented for good reason. Some fail to learn it.

kurusu · 09-29-2016, 01:49 PM

[Holding the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch]
King Arthur: How does it... um... how does it work?
Sir Lancelot: I know not, my liege.
King Arthur: Consult the Book of Armaments.
Brother Maynard: Armaments, chapter two, verses nine through twenty-one.
Cleric: [reading] And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats, and large chu...
Brother Maynard: Skip a bit, Brother...
Cleric: And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.
Brother Maynard: Amen.
All: Amen.
King Arthur: Right. One... two... five!
Galahad: Three, sir.
King Arthur: Three!

09-19-2016, 01:56 PM	#1
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,244 Thanks: 125 Thanked 715 Times in 372 Posts	Enhanced hand grenade http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/09...nced-hand.html __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

09-20-2016, 02:03 PM	#5
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,355 Times in 2,041 Posts	Let me think- battery and electronics in a hand grenade? No thanks. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

09-20-2016, 07:58 PM	#8
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,355 Times in 2,041 Posts	Our government dollars at foolish work! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

09-21-2016, 09:22 AM	#11
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 793 Thanks: 400 Thanked 634 Times in 336 Posts	Golly, first the feds take the lead out of gasoline and now they are taking the asbestos out of hand grenades. I mean really what is next?! A kinder, eco friendly explosive? __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

09-21-2016, 12:16 PM	#13
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,355 Times in 2,041 Posts	One EMP and Poof! No hand grenades. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

09-19-2016, 04:34 PM	#2
kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 930 Times in 509 Posts	That looks like a good solution for a non existing problem. I'll bet that it's going to get mishandled under stress. It's cost effective all right. If you don't count human life in the cost.

09-20-2016, 11:49 AM	#3
Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 952 Thanks: 777 Thanked 528 Times in 290 Posts	Electronic.

09-20-2016, 01:01 PM	#4
spacecoast User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL and PA Posts: 332 Thanks: 276 Thanked 243 Times in 109 Posts	It was interesting to learn that current hand grenades are not ambidextrous.

09-20-2016, 11:47 PM	#9
KABAR2 User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Virginia Posts: 32 Thanks: 2 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	The military stockpiles munitions a grenade made and stored 10 or 20 years ago will when the mechanical fuse is set in motion go BOOM! Can the same be said for this new electronic fuse? Sometimes re-enventing the wheel can leave you flat.

09-21-2016, 02:36 AM	#10
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	Some standard munitions, like grenades, and even ammo have a defined "shelf life." Some of it does become unreliable with age and storage. I remember receiving notices to sort through our stored goodies and picking certain things by lot number and blowing them up. LAWs did not stand up to the climate for one example. We'd blow them after they had been dragged around awhile.

09-21-2016, 10:00 AM	#12
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	And no wifi...

09-21-2016, 01:50 PM	#14
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	Another "solution" in search of a problem. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-21-2016, 05:03 PM	#15
Arizona Slim Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 706 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 409 Times in 225 Posts	All this talk about frag grenades reminds me of the time during my military days when, one day, we got an anonymous call that someone had taken a grenade out of a case, pulled the pin and put the grenade back in the cardboard sleeve and placed it back in the wooden crate. The CWO3, Chief Warrant Officer, that I reported to and I went out to the location were we stored a three day supply of ammunition to supply one Battle Group in the event we were called up.. I was in the 101st Airborne at that time which consisted of five Battle Groups and a Support Group. The Warrant Officer pried the lid off the first case we came to, looked in and right away spotted the grenade without the pin. Don't know if the clown that did that was ever caught but never assumed anything after that. Lon

09-26-2016, 07:54 AM	#17
flydive User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Switzerland Posts: 63 Thanks: 1 Thanked 45 Times in 23 Posts	Battery thermal runaway?

09-28-2016, 11:14 PM	#18
conehammer User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 116 Thanks: 1 Thanked 55 Times in 21 Posts	The expression "KISS" was invented for good reason. Some fail to learn it.

09-29-2016, 01:49 PM	#19
kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 930 Times in 509 Posts	[Holding the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch] King Arthur: How does it... um... how does it work? Sir Lancelot: I know not, my liege. King Arthur: Consult the Book of Armaments. Brother Maynard: Armaments, chapter two, verses nine through twenty-one. Cleric: [reading] And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats, and large chu... Brother Maynard: Skip a bit, Brother... Cleric: And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it. Brother Maynard: Amen. All: Amen. King Arthur: Right. One... two... five! Galahad: Three, sir. King Arthur: Three!