Hitler's Luger

alanint · 02-23-2016, 01:05 PM

We all know that this is a standing joke in the collector community, however some time ago someone did post a German Weimar Era Military Document, which records the Luger pistol, which was issued to Adolph Hitler when he was tasked with spying on the then nascent Nazi Party. Thus, "Hitler's Luger".

Does anybody remember this? The pistol was an Erfurt, if memory serves and the serial number was on the receipt signed by Hitler. I don't recall if a suffix was included, but having the number handy might yield a lucky find some day.

ithacaartist · 02-23-2016, 02:10 PM

Doug,

I do remember, IIRC, a post that had a pic of the document. I remember noticing how Hitler's signature changed between then and his "glory days". An interesting question is what would have happened if he had not had that particular assignment.

Zorba · 02-24-2016, 01:47 AM

I remember that post being discussed at considerable length - the document was interesting. Since the referenced pistol - a nice reliable 1940 "42" - is in my possession, I need that document! The story of how this gun was issued to Hitler via a time machine would make an excellent sci-fi book!

Tinplatejeff · 02-24-2016, 06:33 AM

I believe this is the P08 that you are referring to?

Pistole 08 / Erfurt 1918 Nr. 6901 q

See:

http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/luger-...l-08-a-253136/

Anybody here own that Erfurt?!?

DonVoigt · 02-24-2016, 10:22 AM

Here is part of what is written:

"So, even in the revolutionary year 1919, the German bureaucracy was working fine. They issued a gun permit to Hitler, to legalize his carrying a gun at the 12th of Sept. 1919.
All the historical data of this document seem to be correct; the printed form of the “Waffenschein” (gun permit) was used in Bavaria/Germany these days. It was common practice to stamp “überstempeln” existing forms to adapt to the actual situation.
Jewgenij even stated the exact file of the document at the РTВА archive in Moscow. I recheck in the net and in the history forum, the file no. is plausible.
I compared Hitlers signature to others, dated 1918 to 1920, (found quite a few in the net). Although not being forensic handwriting expert nor graphologist the signature seems authentic.

Leaves one question open: Where is the Luger Pistol 08, Erfurt 1918, no. 6901q?"

And a picture of a copy of the document.

Thanks to the original poster.

kurusu · 02-24-2016, 11:33 AM

As a corporal in the Great War wouldn't he have carried a Luger also?

DonVoigt · 02-24-2016, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurusu

As a corporal in the Great War wouldn't he have carried a Luger also?

Almost certainly as a dispatch runner, I would think.

roadkill1 · 02-24-2016, 01:33 PM

Thank you ALL for this discussion and, most significantly, for the Erfurt serial number. Checked my Imperial Erfurts and I HAVE IT !!!! Could not believe my eyes.......

Please PM me if you are interested in purchasing it. If you are, how many would you want?

Ron

kurusu · 02-24-2016, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadkill1

Thank you ALL for this discussion and, most significantly, for the Erfurt serial number. Checked my Imperial Erfurts and I HAVE IT !!!! Could not believe my eyes.......

Please PM me if you are interested in purchasing it. If you are, how many would you want?

Ron

I'll trade them all for a genu-ine map of the lost Dutchman mine that recently came to my possession.

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alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Hitler's Luger We all know that this is a standing joke in the collector community, however some time ago someone did post a German Weimar Era Military Document, which records the Luger pistol, which was issued to Adolph Hitler when he was tasked with spying on the then nascent Nazi Party. Thus, "Hitler's Luger". Does anybody remember this? The pistol was an Erfurt, if memory serves and the serial number was on the receipt signed by Hitler. I don't recall if a suffix was included, but having the number handy might yield a lucky find some day.

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ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,288 Thanks: 7,035 Thanked 2,482 Times in 1,323 Posts	Doug, I do remember, IIRC, a post that had a pic of the document. I remember noticing how Hitler's signature changed between then and his "glory days". An interesting question is what would have happened if he had not had that particular assignment. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

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DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,678 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	Here is part of what is written: "So, even in the revolutionary year 1919, the German bureaucracy was working fine. They issued a gun permit to Hitler, to legalize his carrying a gun at the 12th of Sept. 1919. All the historical data of this document seem to be correct; the printed form of the “Waffenschein” (gun permit) was used in Bavaria/Germany these days. It was common practice to stamp “überstempeln” existing forms to adapt to the actual situation. Jewgenij even stated the exact file of the document at the РTВА archive in Moscow. I recheck in the net and in the history forum, the file no. is plausible. I compared Hitlers signature to others, dated 1918 to 1920, (found quite a few in the net). Although not being forensic handwriting expert nor graphologist the signature seems authentic. Leaves one question open: Where is the Luger Pistol 08, Erfurt 1918, no. 6901q?" And a picture of a copy of the document. Thanks to the original poster. Attached Thumbnails __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 951 Thanks: 776 Thanked 526 Times in 289 Posts	I remember that post being discussed at considerable length - the document was interesting. Since the referenced pistol - a nice reliable 1940 "42" - is in my possession, I need that document! The story of how this gun was issued to Hitler via a time machine would make an excellent sci-fi book!

02-24-2016, 06:33 AM	#4
Tinplatejeff User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 68 Thanks: 77 Thanked 44 Times in 23 Posts	I believe this is the P08 that you are referring to? Pistole 08 / Erfurt 1918 Nr. 6901 q See: http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/luger-...l-08-a-253136/ Anybody here own that Erfurt?!?

02-24-2016, 11:33 AM	#6
kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 929 Times in 509 Posts	As a corporal in the Great War wouldn't he have carried a Luger also?

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roadkill1 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 127 Thanks: 166 Thanked 129 Times in 63 Posts	Thank you ALL for this discussion and, most significantly, for the Erfurt serial number. Checked my Imperial Erfurts and I HAVE IT !!!! Could not believe my eyes....... Please PM me if you are interested in purchasing it. If you are, how many would you want? Ron