Out Of Gun Sights

cirelaw · 01-27-2015, 12:23 PM

I finally photographed each of 4 adjustable sights. A Navy, Artillery, a Mauser and Carbine and they are all different including I'm searching their respective early patents.What do the numbers signify? Do numbers signify anything regarding elevation for distance~ I just located my Walther Sportsmodel and the sight is comprable~Did any come with instructive info?? Eric

alanint · 01-27-2015, 01:41 PM

All indicate a supposed point of impact in meters. The Artillery and the Mauser are somewhat optimistic at 800 and 1000 meters, respectively.

The Navy sights calibrated at both 100 and 200 meters and the carbine out to 300 meters are perhaps the most practical of the group.

cirelaw · 01-27-2015, 01:52 PM

Great but wouldn't the shooter have to estimate the distance some how? This Oigee/Berlin sight came with the gun but there were never and brackets

alanint · 01-27-2015, 03:51 PM

Yes, the user would have to estimate the distances. Keep in mind that people of that era where much more attuned to these types of mental calculations and could reasonably estimate these distances.

cirelaw · 01-27-2015, 03:54 PM

Lasers have made us Lazy~~~TKS

cirelaw · 01-27-2015, 05:00 PM

You are right! We have become more reliant upon every thing but our own sences and patience~ One more thing were the front sights ever mean't to be adjusted post production as I can't think any time or circumstance!! They even sell a tool for that singular purpose~ Ps You are very knowledgeable about everything!! TKS

Ron Wood · 01-27-2015, 07:27 PM

Except for the LP08, adjustable rear sights were only adjustable for elevation. Windage adjustments had to be made with the front sight. Up until about mid-1917 the LP08 front sight was screw adjustable. Other front sights had to be moved with a drift punch or a special tool as you mentioned. Not everyone sees the same "sight picture" when aiming, so moving the front sight sometimes was necessary for some individuals. Also there may be a need to compensate for wear or barrel rotation (rare).

01-27-2015, 12:23 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Out Of Gun Sights I finally photographed each of 4 adjustable sights. A Navy, Artillery, a Mauser and Carbine and they are all different including I'm searching their respective early patents.What do the numbers signify? Do numbers signify anything regarding elevation for distance~ I just located my Walther Sportsmodel and the sight is comprable~Did any come with instructive info?? Eric Attached Thumbnails

01-27-2015, 01:52 PM	#3
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Great but wouldn't the shooter have to estimate the distance some how? This Oigee/Berlin sight came with the gun but there were never and brackets Attached Thumbnails

01-27-2015, 05:00 PM	#6
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	You are right! We have become more reliant upon every thing but our own sences and patience~ One more thing were the front sights ever mean't to be adjusted post production as I can't think any time or circumstance!! They even sell a tool for that singular purpose~ Ps You are very knowledgeable about everything!! TKS Attached Thumbnails

01-27-2015, 07:27 PM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Except for the LP08, adjustable rear sights were only adjustable for elevation. Windage adjustments had to be made with the front sight. Up until about mid-1917 the LP08 front sight was screw adjustable. Other front sights had to be moved with a drift punch or a special tool as you mentioned. Not everyone sees the same "sight picture" when aiming, so moving the front sight sometimes was necessary for some individuals. Also there may be a need to compensate for wear or barrel rotation (rare). __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-27-2015, 01:41 PM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	All indicate a supposed point of impact in meters. The Artillery and the Mauser are somewhat optimistic at 800 and 1000 meters, respectively. The Navy sights calibrated at both 100 and 200 meters and the carbine out to 300 meters are perhaps the most practical of the group.

01-27-2015, 03:51 PM	#4
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Yes, the user would have to estimate the distances. Keep in mind that people of that era where much more attuned to these types of mental calculations and could reasonably estimate these distances.

01-27-2015, 03:54 PM	#5
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Lasers have made us Lazy~~~TKS