30 Luger snap caps

dalek · 07-09-2014, 11:25 PM

Where can I find them? Call me a coward but I do not feel comfortable testing my magazine by filling it with live ammo and then practicing/fondling the P08 in my living room

Ron Wood · 07-10-2014, 01:20 AM

I have never found a source for 7.65mm Luger snap caps. Folks usually have to resort to making their own.

alanint · 07-10-2014, 07:26 AM

A simple way to do this, if you reload, is to remove the primers and replace with a cut down, pencil eraser. Next fill the case with sand, polishing media or similar and install the bullet with a good crimp.

I think that the first guy to produce a commercial available urethane plug, that simply slides into the case mouth and runs the full length of the inner casing, but protrudes out the top in a correct bullet profile to simulate a loaded round, could get rich. The base of this plug could have a peel off sticky that would hold the plug in place at the bottom of the casing and an additional sticky based plug could even be offered for the primer pocket. This would both create an instant, inexpensive "snap cap" but would also provide a display round for exhibition, belt carry for Cowboy Action shooting or for function testing.
If you do it, I expect a cut of royalties.

Ben M. · 07-10-2014, 03:34 PM

may want to ask this ebayer if they handle 30 luger.

http://stores.ebay.com/Lone-Star-Reloading

hayhugh · 07-10-2014, 04:01 PM

He has 30 Mauser - is there a difference>

saab-bob · 07-10-2014, 04:26 PM

30 Mauser wont fit in the chamber of your 30 luger. The shell case in longer on the Mauser ammo.

Amazed he has a 30 Mauser snap cap!

Bob

rhuff · 07-10-2014, 05:58 PM

If you want to just check for feeding, extraction and ejection, then just remove the firing pin from the breechblock. Without that item, you will not ignite a primer.

Vlim · 07-10-2014, 06:21 PM

Even easier.

Take a .30 luger round, pull the bullet, drop the powder. Insert the primed empty cartridge in the chamber. Point towards something that's relatively inert. Pull trigger. Remove used case, stick bullet back in: dummy created.

rhuff · 07-11-2014, 06:41 PM

Of course any handloader that has 30 Luger dies can produce dummy rounds in nothing flat. I have produced dummy rounds for all of the different projectile profiles that I load in the 30 Luger brass. I use them in all of my 30 Luger handguns to check things out.

What Vlim's suggestion to do, I don't think will work out satisfactorily. Once you pull the bullet from the brass, in order to dump the powder and ignite the primer, you have lost the neck tension between bullet and case mouth. I have never seen a 30 Luger bullet with a beveled base, like seen in rifle and some handgun bullets. IF you could get the bullet to seat back into the brass case without belling the casemouth, there would be nearly zero neck tension on the bullet and when you tried to get it to feed into the chamber, you, for sure, would get marked set back and a jam.

I don't believe that one can ignite a primer with a flat surface......if you could, we would have a ton of primer ignitions when we seat a primer into the primer pocket with the primer ram of the press. I have no idea how many Ks of primers that I have seated since 1971-72, but quite a few. I have yet to ignite a primer. To me, the ram would be more prone to ignite a primer than would be a breach face to the sunken primer of a properly primed brass case. Just my thoughts.

John Sabato · 07-11-2014, 10:52 PM

Put a short dowel or some sand in the case to prevent bullet setback when replacing the bullet.

GySgt1811 · 07-12-2014, 12:43 PM

Put a short dowel or some sand in the case to prevent bullet setback when replacing the bullet.
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regards, -John S

What John said...

Additionally, back when when I still trusted my competence to hand load, I made some snap caps by filling the empty primer pocket with Dow silicone caulking. Easy to do and when fully set up it made a decent surface for the firing pin to contact.

Best Regards,

Gunny John

07-09-2014, 11:25 PM	#1
dalek User Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	30 Luger snap caps Where can I find them? Call me a coward but I do not feel comfortable testing my magazine by filling it with live ammo and then practicing/fondling the P08 in my living room

07-10-2014, 01:20 AM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,091 Thanked 5,180 Times in 1,703 Posts	I have never found a source for 7.65mm Luger snap caps. Folks usually have to resort to making their own. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-10-2014, 04:26 PM	#6
saab-bob User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 459 Thanks: 774 Thanked 143 Times in 87 Posts	30 Mauser wont fit in the chamber of your 30 luger. The shell case in longer on the Mauser ammo. Amazed he has a 30 Mauser snap cap! Bob __________________ "I think,therefore I own guns"

07-11-2014, 10:52 PM	#10
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Put a short dowel or some sand in the case to prevent bullet setback when replacing the bullet. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

07-10-2014, 07:26 AM	#3
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	A simple way to do this, if you reload, is to remove the primers and replace with a cut down, pencil eraser. Next fill the case with sand, polishing media or similar and install the bullet with a good crimp. I think that the first guy to produce a commercial available urethane plug, that simply slides into the case mouth and runs the full length of the inner casing, but protrudes out the top in a correct bullet profile to simulate a loaded round, could get rich. The base of this plug could have a peel off sticky that would hold the plug in place at the bottom of the casing and an additional sticky based plug could even be offered for the primer pocket. This would both create an instant, inexpensive "snap cap" but would also provide a display round for exhibition, belt carry for Cowboy Action shooting or for function testing. If you do it, I expect a cut of royalties.

07-10-2014, 03:34 PM	#4
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 93 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	may want to ask this ebayer if they handle 30 luger. http://stores.ebay.com/Lone-Star-Reloading

07-10-2014, 04:01 PM	#5
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 896 Thanks: 858 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	He has 30 Mauser - is there a difference>

07-10-2014, 05:58 PM	#7
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,293 Thanks: 2,712 Thanked 974 Times in 719 Posts	If you want to just check for feeding, extraction and ejection, then just remove the firing pin from the breechblock. Without that item, you will not ignite a primer.

07-10-2014, 06:21 PM	#8
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	Even easier. Take a .30 luger round, pull the bullet, drop the powder. Insert the primed empty cartridge in the chamber. Point towards something that's relatively inert. Pull trigger. Remove used case, stick bullet back in: dummy created.

07-11-2014, 06:41 PM	#9
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,293 Thanks: 2,712 Thanked 974 Times in 719 Posts	Of course any handloader that has 30 Luger dies can produce dummy rounds in nothing flat. I have produced dummy rounds for all of the different projectile profiles that I load in the 30 Luger brass. I use them in all of my 30 Luger handguns to check things out. What Vlim's suggestion to do, I don't think will work out satisfactorily. Once you pull the bullet from the brass, in order to dump the powder and ignite the primer, you have lost the neck tension between bullet and case mouth. I have never seen a 30 Luger bullet with a beveled base, like seen in rifle and some handgun bullets. IF you could get the bullet to seat back into the brass case without belling the casemouth, there would be nearly zero neck tension on the bullet and when you tried to get it to feed into the chamber, you, for sure, would get marked set back and a jam. I don't believe that one can ignite a primer with a flat surface......if you could, we would have a ton of primer ignitions when we seat a primer into the primer pocket with the primer ram of the press. I have no idea how many Ks of primers that I have seated since 1971-72, but quite a few. I have yet to ignite a primer. To me, the ram would be more prone to ignite a primer than would be a breach face to the sunken primer of a properly primed brass case. Just my thoughts.

07-12-2014, 12:43 PM	#11
GySgt1811 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 237 Thanks: 1,238 Thanked 126 Times in 84 Posts	Put a short dowel or some sand in the case to prevent bullet setback when replacing the bullet. __________________ regards, -John S What John said... Additionally, back when when I still trusted my competence to hand load, I made some snap caps by filling the empty primer pocket with Dow silicone caulking. Easy to do and when fully set up it made a decent surface for the firing pin to contact. Best Regards, Gunny John