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Unread 03-20-2014, 10:02 PM   #1
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Default 1929 DWM 9mm Police

This is my first experience on Luger forum so bear with me. In fact I have never held a Luger until a few days ago. This luger was liberated by a WWII soldier and stored away until just recently. I'm trying to help the old boy gather more information on it. I call it a 1929 because 1929 is stamped on the holster.
The serial# is 1864 with a t underneath it. The pistol as well as clips all have 1864 or 64 part numbers that I can see. I have not disassembled it. What is strange to me is the chamber/action can be opened about half way by pushing back on the barrel. Never been around a luger before but I don't think this is right.
The pistol, holster and a long police bayonet are all stamped with L. Mg. 206 I am assuming this is a code for a city in Germany.
I have not been able to find disassembly instructions yet.
My questions:
- Is it a police model?
- Am I wrong on the date?
- Is action supposed to open by pushing back on barrel?
- What does L. Mg. 206 mean?
- where can I find disassembly instructions?
I realize I'm pretty green when it comes to lugers but any guidance or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave
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Unread 03-20-2014, 10:41 PM   #2
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Dave welcome.

You are about right on the date, but it's mainly pure luck. This is a police model. See the sticky that says how to I'd a Luger in the new collectors area.

Pictures would help to verify.

This is if I remember a rural police, magesburg (sp) -someone will come along and correct me.
L means rural and then city and then the weapons number (206)

It should have a sear safety (see FAQ), does it have a mag safety?

I would have to see what you mean by the action. Do you mean you push back on barrel and it goes back anout 3/4 of an inch or so? That is normal...

There is a technical section here that has links on YouTube or just go to google and type in YouTube disassembly Luger...
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There is a technical section here that has links on YouTube or just go to google and type in YouTube disassembly Luger...
That's what I thought, too, but I didn't find any links to the YouTube videos, looking in Links&resources, technical info, and Luger videos. Maybe I'm having a "senior moment".

Why does everybody and their brother shove the barrel and hold it back by pushing it against something while rotating the takedown lever? 1) insert empty mag 2) pull the action all the way back, the holdopen will hold it back 3(remove empty mag 4)rotate takedown lever 5)remove side plate 6)controlled release of action, de-cocking on the way 7)slide the upper forward and off. Less wear and tear on library selections and table tops around the house!
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Magdeberg is the city...

interestingly, I have the Schutzpolizei (Schupo or uniformed security police) Luger S.Mg.206 which is a reworked Erfurt from 1917...

The Landespolizei is the state level police.

If it is assembled properly, it should be easy to lift up the toggles and draw the breech block back from the chamber. It's possible that they have the little hook improperly engaged back where the recoil spring lever sits.

The lock lever above the trigger guard on the left should be easy to rotate down when you pull the receiver back slightly.

Do take care to ensure that this is not loaded before you handle it. If unsure, work outside and always keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.
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OK. Here is a video showing how to disassemble it. You can skip directly to 3:30:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LMPyQoHQzs

Another one (skip directly to 2:30):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-d2lQZRCDA

Hope it helps you.

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The pistol, holster and a long police bayonet are all stamped with L. Mg. 206 I am assuming this is a code for a city in Germany.
Dave, the marking is from the Landjägerei (rural constabulary) of the Prussian administrative district of Magdeburg. It does not designate a specific city.

It is extremely rare to have a P08, holster and bayonet with matching property marks. I know of only one other set pictured on p. v of Jan Still's Weimar Lugers. Congratulations!!!

Does it have a DWM logo on the top of the middle toggle link or is it blank?
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Thank you all for your assistance, advise and information.
The pistol was incorrectly reassembled. Got it figured out. DWM is on top of receiver. Thanks for the heads up on the rarity of the matching pistol, holster and bayonet. I don't plan on selling it but its good to know. I hope to find out the history of how my friend acquired it. He originally told me he took it at gun point off a German soldier. Maybe he can remember the town and more details.
Thanks again everyone for your help. Dave Dimmick
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He originally told me he took it at gun point off a German soldier.
More likely, he took it off a German constable.
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