Is This a Police Holster

aldo35 · 11-18-2013, 01:36 PM

I purchase a Luger in the 60's from a WWII vet and it came with a nice brown holster. I read recently that military holsters were black and police holsters were brown is this correct. Attached are some pictures of this holster. Stamped on the back is the name Carl Ackva, below that 1939 and below that WaA286. I am giving it to my son and would like an idea of it's value as I see them on auction site with quite a range of prices.
Thanks.

Aldo35

Edward Tinker · 11-18-2013, 01:41 PM

no, it is likely army

some people will say that brown holsters were luftwaffe because the army did have a rule that holsters were to be dyded black, but I see so many that I doubt all are luftwaffe

Police came in brown or black, black usually city police and others and rural were brown

brown is particularly sought after by many folks / ensure you show the inside to show it has not been cut down, etc.

Worth $200-$275 among collectors, dealers will ask a lot more - your tool, it depends on how it is marked, blank, about $40-$50 / marked $75-$125 IMO

SteveM · 11-18-2013, 01:52 PM

Generally, Police holsters have a stud and strap closure.

George Anderson · 11-18-2013, 02:45 PM

Police holsters were black for Schutzpolizei and brown for Landjaegerei. Police holsters had "up-straps" with a stud for closure.

WWII military holsters were either brown or black. All Eagle/2 Luftwaffe holsters I have ever seen were black.

kubel · 11-18-2013, 07:25 PM

Yep, most likely an Army holster. Yours is very nice. If you ever decide to sell, I have two 1939 Lugers looking for a holster like that.

aldo35 · 11-18-2013, 07:43 PM

Thanks to all for the info. The holster is not cut down, the pistol fit well. The tool has a small marking on the front just below the hole. It is an Eagle with folded wings as opposed to the Eagle with spread wing above WaA on the back of the holster. Under the Eagle on the tool are two numbers I can't make out the first on the second number is 3. I will post some picture but the tool mark is so small I need a glass to view it.
Aldo35

abukafura · 11-19-2013, 10:55 AM

This is avery attractive holster. Thanks for sharing.

lew1 · 11-19-2013, 11:15 AM

Very nice holster

kubel · 11-19-2013, 12:06 PM

Most likely, the first digit you can't read on the Waffenamt stamp on the loading tool is a 6.

aldo35 · 11-20-2013, 03:16 PM

Hi,
I bought two 1939 Lugers in the 60's and each came with a holster and tool. Neither appear cut down, while the brown holster show very little wear you will see that the black one has quite a bit. The tool in the black holster has no markings, the brown holster does.

Aldo35

alanint · 11-20-2013, 05:15 PM

The black holster saw field use. Maybe even combat. That is a plus for me, even if in my own mind.

kubel · 11-20-2013, 09:58 PM

Yes, the black one is still in nice shape even though the finish shows some wear. Both are very nice holsters.

11-18-2013, 01:36 PM	#1
aldo35 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern GA Posts: 322 Thanks: 2,164 Thanked 138 Times in 70 Posts	Is This a Police Holster I purchase a Luger in the 60's from a WWII vet and it came with a nice brown holster. I read recently that military holsters were black and police holsters were brown is this correct. Attached are some pictures of this holster. Stamped on the back is the name Carl Ackva, below that 1939 and below that WaA286. I am giving it to my son and would like an idea of it's value as I see them on auction site with quite a range of prices. Thanks. Aldo35 Attached Thumbnails

11-18-2013, 01:41 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	no, it is likely army some people will say that brown holsters were luftwaffe because the army did have a rule that holsters were to be dyded black, but I see so many that I doubt all are luftwaffe Police came in brown or black, black usually city police and others and rural were brown brown is particularly sought after by many folks / ensure you show the inside to show it has not been cut down, etc. Worth $200-$275 among collectors, dealers will ask a lot more - your tool, it depends on how it is marked, blank, about $40-$50 / marked $75-$125 IMO __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-18-2013, 07:43 PM	#6
aldo35 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern GA Posts: 322 Thanks: 2,164 Thanked 138 Times in 70 Posts	Brown Holster Thanks to all for the info. The holster is not cut down, the pistol fit well. The tool has a small marking on the front just below the hole. It is an Eagle with folded wings as opposed to the Eagle with spread wing above WaA on the back of the holster. Under the Eagle on the tool are two numbers I can't make out the first on the second number is 3. I will post some picture but the tool mark is so small I need a glass to view it. Aldo35

11-19-2013, 11:15 AM	#8
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	Very nice holster __________________ charlie

11-20-2013, 03:16 PM	#10
aldo35 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern GA Posts: 322 Thanks: 2,164 Thanked 138 Times in 70 Posts	Additional Holster Pictures Hi, I bought two 1939 Lugers in the 60's and each came with a holster and tool. Neither appear cut down, while the brown holster show very little wear you will see that the black one has quite a bit. The tool in the black holster has no markings, the brown holster does. Aldo35 Attached Thumbnails

11-18-2013, 01:52 PM	#3
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Generally, Police holsters have a stud and strap closure.

11-18-2013, 02:45 PM	#4
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Police holsters were black for Schutzpolizei and brown for Landjaegerei. Police holsters had "up-straps" with a stud for closure. WWII military holsters were either brown or black. All Eagle/2 Luftwaffe holsters I have ever seen were black.

11-18-2013, 07:25 PM	#5
kubel User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 124 Thanks: 5 Thanked 32 Times in 20 Posts	Yep, most likely an Army holster. Yours is very nice. If you ever decide to sell, I have two 1939 Lugers looking for a holster like that.

11-19-2013, 10:55 AM	#7
abukafura Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northeast Wisconsin, near Greeen Bay Posts: 327 Thanks: 1,314 Thanked 89 Times in 57 Posts	This is avery attractive holster. Thanks for sharing.

11-19-2013, 12:06 PM	#9
kubel User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 124 Thanks: 5 Thanked 32 Times in 20 Posts	Most likely, the first digit you can't read on the Waffenamt stamp on the loading tool is a 6.

11-20-2013, 05:15 PM	#11
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The black holster saw field use. Maybe even combat. That is a plus for me, even if in my own mind.

11-20-2013, 09:58 PM	#12
kubel User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 124 Thanks: 5 Thanked 32 Times in 20 Posts	Yes, the black one is still in nice shape even though the finish shows some wear. Both are very nice holsters.