a new guy in luger world!

reff · 09-03-2013, 02:07 AM

Guys , hello for everbody from brazil! i have a question..

i was cleaning my luger ,but i lost a small piece,can you tell me the name of the pice and if i gonna a problem because of this!
its possible replace the entire part?

i need some new springs for the magazine too but i cannot have send like a firearms part , what can i do?*someone can send to me?(PAYPAL)

THIS PART>

tharpo · 09-03-2013, 02:26 AM

Welcome to the Forum! Looks like you are missing the holdopen spring. Your toggles will not lock back properly without it. I would think someone here would have an extra one.

Tom

reff · 09-03-2013, 02:44 PM

thanks tharpo, already find a store that sells!

kzullick · 09-03-2013, 04:29 PM

Welcome to the forum Diego.

lugerholsterrepair · 09-03-2013, 06:52 PM

Diego..I have blown up your photo and you are NOT missing the holdopen spring. I can see it is there but it is wedged under the pin that holds your holdopen in. Lift the L shaped portion at the rear..GENTLY! And pull back, your holdopen will come out. You may need to reshape the spring as it looks pretty bent.

When you go to re install the holdopen..the flat spring slides over the top of this pivot pin and hooks the holdopen underneath..the spring, the cross pin and the hook act in concert to hold it all in place.

Your flat holdopen spring must have a rainbow arc ..the opposite of what it will be when you get it out. This gentle arc of the spring is what holds the L shaped portion of the holdope into it's well..escaping the movement of the bolt which rides/slides over it until the last cartridge is chambered. Once this cartridge is in the chamber the follower button pushed by the magazine spring is then applying pressure to push up on the holdopen, overcoming this small flat spring and as the bolt returns on it's rearward travel the holdopen slides under it with upward pressure..until
the bolt returns forward. At the point it begins it's forward motion the bolt is caught by the knife edge of the holdopeon on a notch cut underneath the bolt.

From what I can see in your photo's your holdopen was simply installed incorrectly. You MAY be able to salvage it.

tharpo · 09-03-2013, 09:37 PM

Great eye Jerry!
Diego, here is a picture of the way the holdopen spring should sit. As Jerry said, you can lift the holdopen up and pull it back the direction away from the spring and remove it.

lugerholsterrepair · 09-03-2013, 09:42 PM

Tom, I really don't know how it got in there that way! I would have thought it would be impossible! After looking it over..it's entirely possible the hook portion under the spring may be broken off?

You taking good care of my helmet?

G.T. · 09-03-2013, 09:44 PM

hello reff, I can send you parts if you need some one to do so.... Luger doc may also be someone to check with, although I don't exactly know his overseas policies, but I think no problems??... I also have some of the springs you need... email me at: gctomeks@msn.com and we can figure out the best way to get you what you need... best to you, til...lat'r....GT

reff · 11-03-2013, 02:02 PM

Guys , i have a urgent i some parts , i have a place in miami to send those parts.

I need Hold Open Latch Spring ,Magazine Spring and Recoil Spring , but i need a person or store that accept paypal or credit card... any help? i need to order TODAY!

reff · 11-03-2013, 02:14 PM

reff · 11-03-2013, 02:14 PM

9mm luger navy edition

gt i send you a email..for doc too!

sheepherder · 11-03-2013, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reff

9mm luger navy edition

A Brazilian Contract Navy Luger???

We need pictures...Crests on chamber, proofs, any stampings...

Wolf has the mag/recoil springs you need; they take CC orders...

Lugerdoc · 11-05-2013, 09:26 AM

Diego, I have all of the requested springs in stock, but don't take paypal or CCs. Perhaps your Miami friend can send me a check. Tom

Douglas Jr. · 11-05-2013, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postino

A Brazilian Contract Navy Luger???

We need pictures...Crests on chamber, proofs, any stampings...

Wolf has the mag/recoil springs you need; they take CC orders...

There isn't such a thing, believe me.
It is a standard P04 issued to the German Imperial Navy.
Gun seems to have been reblued, which is a common occurance in Brazil (unfortunately).
Douglas.

09-03-2013, 02:07 AM	#1
reff User Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	a new guy in luger world! Guys , hello for everbody from brazil! i have a question.. i was cleaning my luger ,but i lost a small piece,can you tell me the name of the pice and if i gonna a problem because of this! its possible replace the entire part? i need some new springs for the magazine too but i cannot have send like a firearms part , what can i do?*someone can send to me?(PAYPAL) THIS PART>

09-03-2013, 06:52 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,865 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	Diego..I have blown up your photo and you are NOT missing the holdopen spring. I can see it is there but it is wedged under the pin that holds your holdopen in. Lift the L shaped portion at the rear..GENTLY! And pull back, your holdopen will come out. You may need to reshape the spring as it looks pretty bent. When you go to re install the holdopen..the flat spring slides over the top of this pivot pin and hooks the holdopen underneath..the spring, the cross pin and the hook act in concert to hold it all in place. Your flat holdopen spring must have a rainbow arc ..the opposite of what it will be when you get it out. This gentle arc of the spring is what holds the L shaped portion of the holdope into it's well..escaping the movement of the bolt which rides/slides over it until the last cartridge is chambered. Once this cartridge is in the chamber the follower button pushed by the magazine spring is then applying pressure to push up on the holdopen, overcoming this small flat spring and as the bolt returns on it's rearward travel the holdopen slides under it with upward pressure..until the bolt returns forward. At the point it begins it's forward motion the bolt is caught by the knife edge of the holdopeon on a notch cut underneath the bolt. From what I can see in your photo's your holdopen was simply installed incorrectly. You MAY be able to salvage it. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

09-03-2013, 09:37 PM	#6
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 537 Thanks: 116 Thanked 376 Times in 154 Posts	Great eye Jerry! Diego, here is a picture of the way the holdopen spring should sit. As Jerry said, you can lift the holdopen up and pull it back the direction away from the spring and remove it. Attached Thumbnails

09-03-2013, 09:42 PM	#7
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,865 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	Tom, I really don't know how it got in there that way! I would have thought it would be impossible! After looking it over..it's entirely possible the hook portion under the spring may be broken off? You taking good care of my helmet? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

09-03-2013, 09:44 PM	#8
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,486 Thanks: 1,284 Thanked 3,583 Times in 989 Posts	parts... hello reff, I can send you parts if you need some one to do so.... Luger doc may also be someone to check with, although I don't exactly know his overseas policies, but I think no problems??... I also have some of the springs you need... email me at: gctomeks@msn.com and we can figure out the best way to get you what you need... best to you, til...lat'r....GT

09-03-2013, 02:26 AM	#2
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 537 Thanks: 116 Thanked 376 Times in 154 Posts	Welcome to the Forum! Looks like you are missing the holdopen spring. Your toggles will not lock back properly without it. I would think someone here would have an extra one. Tom

09-03-2013, 02:44 PM	#3
reff User Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks tharpo, already find a store that sells!

09-03-2013, 04:29 PM	#4
kzullick Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: East Berwick, Pennsylvania Posts: 227 Thanks: 614 Thanked 100 Times in 81 Posts	Welcome to the forum Diego.

11-03-2013, 02:02 PM	#9
reff User Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Guys , i have a urgent i some parts , i have a place in miami to send those parts. I need Hold Open Latch Spring ,Magazine Spring and Recoil Spring , but i need a person or store that accept paypal or credit card... any help? i need to order TODAY!

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11-05-2013, 09:26 AM	#13
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Diego, I have all of the requested springs in stock, but don't take paypal or CCs. Perhaps your Miami friend can send me a check. Tom __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net