question about Lugerman

Ian Ox · 07-13-2013, 07:56 PM

Greetings all,
Has anyone contacted Lugerman recently. I can't get in touch with him, he has not responded to email or snail mail. Is he OK or is he ill, out of town? Anybody know?
Thanks - IanOx

DavidJayUden · 07-13-2013, 08:12 PM

I've heard nothing from or about Eugene in quite some time, maybe a year or more. Keep us posted.
dju

Ian Ox · 07-13-2013, 08:51 PM

Yeah, he's been quite responsive in the past, Eugene Golubtsov, right.
I will try him again, thanks I O

alvin · 07-13-2013, 08:52 PM

According to previous forum postings, delayed response is normal because he's very busy. If interested in a gun on... for example gunbroker.com, sending a few questions to seller, and the seller never replies.... will you simply bid on it? Is buying service very different from buying a gun? Attitude is everything.

sheepherder · 07-13-2013, 09:06 PM

If you do a Search here, you will find several threads about him...His work is impressive, and from what little I know/can tell, also reasonable [Luger carbines]...But his response time may be slow...

Hopefully, that means he is hard at work on your project!

Ben M. · 07-13-2013, 10:05 PM

some of his early works had paint-runs in the bluing finish. hope he has improved. ted greene/thor is a much better place to use.

CAP Black · 07-13-2013, 10:56 PM

My experience with Eugene is that when you have something on order from him and have paid the money you are hurting because he works currently on where he can get the next dollar; which is not your project as he has your money. I purchased a carbine from him and upon firing it with ammo supplied by him the shoulder stock got a small split. I've been since march trying to get the replacement sent back to me. It's been first one excuse and then another. And we are not talking small dollars. He was reasonable in length of time to do the original job; but now I don't owe him anything. He owes me - that is when his M.O. is to take WAAAAAY too long in sending out the item. Read the posts and you will see the pattern.
Jack

Edward Tinker · 07-13-2013, 11:02 PM

Jack, we'll see. I have a Carbine on order.

He lives about 30 miles from me, I guess I could send him flowers so he'll work on mine...

DavidJayUden · 07-13-2013, 11:59 PM

Ed:
Have you met him? You 2 live so close you should have coffee at McDonalds in the mornings. He is an interesting character with lots of knowledge.
dju

sheepherder · 07-14-2013, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

Jack, we'll see. I have a Carbine on order.

I KNEW IT!!!

I am eagerly awaiting your reports!!!

Luger Carbine Conversion

Service includes a complete fully assembled and tested conversion.

16.5 inch 9mm Luger barrel. Front ramp sight and reproduction carbine 4 position rear site. Forward grip attaching iron and wood forearm with cross bar pin for forearm attachment and brass wood inserts. Rear detachable carbine style stock. Checkering on forearm and rear stock. Carbine is test fired before shipping.

Listed price includes a donor luger. DWM 1920-1923 Commercial model, depending on the market availability. Other options available.

For a sample of the conversion please click on the link below:

Luger Carbine 1920 Model :$3600

Quote:

He lives about 30 miles from me, I guess I could send him flowers so he'll work on mine...

Hmmmm...Honey or vinegar...Always a difficult choice...

ithacaartist · 07-14-2013, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

... I guess I could send him flowers so he'll work on mine...

Edward Tinker · 07-14-2013, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postino

I KNEW IT!!!

I am eagerly awaiting your reports!!!

...

My friend, I just couldn't resist taking the chance.

I might as well admit it, for some silly reason instead of a 1920 carbine with a DWM, I asked for a G date S/42 (that was the donor parts gun I had).

The magazines are Haenel Schmeisser and that real bright chrome and GT new aluminum bases.

I wish I'd had the Simson parts gun to have used, but it was long sold, so this is my end of the Weimar era carbine fantasy piece

sheepherder · 07-14-2013, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

My friend, I just couldn't resist taking the chance.

Cool!!!

What a great opportunity for Eugene! A LugerForum Super Moderator placing an order, doubtless planning on a detailed online write-up of the progress, problems, and outcome of the entire project, from start to in-his-hot-little-hands!!!

I'm sure that a swiftly done, beautifully finished carbine will entice others to place orders as well!!!

...Or at least one other...

jsmith · 07-17-2013, 04:01 PM

It took 2 months for him to send a Luger Locking bolt 2 me, Every week same story, I will mail it Saturday. Asked him repeatedly to refund my money, Then he finally says he mailed it, A week and 1/2 later he asks to cofirm my address, Oh sorry he mailed out 4 locking bolts last week but not mine. Bolt came in, looks like a repro to me.
I was gonna get a navy sight from him, but not now,
Not worth the trouble

flytrout · 09-25-2013, 08:02 PM

Hi CAP Black
You can get a stock from Macon gunstocks. Sorry to kick the thread these late.

CAP Black · 09-25-2013, 08:15 PM

flytrout:
You don't understand my stock is a custom made; from a matching piece of gorgeous walnut; very well made and finished. Not just some stock.
Jack

John Sabato · 09-26-2013, 12:52 PM

CAP, If you still have the stock in YOUR possession, IMHO it is not worth the aggravation of getting Lugerman to fix it... If Hugh Clark can fix the million dollary safety chip in original Luger grips so you can't tell it has been repaired, he can probably fix your custom stock the same way...

Regardless of the quality of his work, the number and frequency of the complaints against Lugerman continue to mount. I can't see why hardly anyone, would do business with him,

...except maybe for Ed Tinker, who lives close enough to him to pay him an unexpected visit when he doesn't answer the mail... If I HAD to do business with him, it would have to be on a face to face basis.

Just my $0.02, and I think they were spent wisely...

flytrout · 09-28-2013, 07:06 PM

I have tried for 7 months to reach him for parts and work to be done. I tried thru email, phone, and even the two of his facebook pages. I beleive I will go some where else.

John Sabato · 09-30-2013, 10:12 AM

Ted Green (THOR) is a craftsman with Lugers. AND he answers his email, and phone...

Just my $0.02

suum cuique · 09-30-2013, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sabato

Ted Green (THOR) is a craftsman with Lugers. AND he answers his email, and phone...

Just my $0.02

Hi,
John is right. I can highly recommend Thor

07-13-2013, 07:56 PM	#1
Ian Ox User Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: North America Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	question about Lugerman Greetings all, Has anyone contacted Lugerman recently. I can't get in touch with him, he has not responded to email or snail mail. Is he OK or is he ill, out of town? Anybody know? Thanks - IanOx

07-13-2013, 09:06 PM	#5
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,195 Thanks: 1,411 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	If you do a Search here, you will find several threads about him...His work is impressive, and from what little I know/can tell, also reasonable [Luger carbines]...But his response time may be slow... Hopefully, that means he is hard at work on your project! __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

09-26-2013, 12:52 PM	#17
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	CAP, If you still have the stock in YOUR possession, IMHO it is not worth the aggravation of getting Lugerman to fix it... If Hugh Clark can fix the million dollary safety chip in original Luger grips so you can't tell it has been repaired, he can probably fix your custom stock the same way... Regardless of the quality of his work, the number and frequency of the complaints against Lugerman continue to mount. I can't see why hardly anyone, would do business with him, ...except maybe for Ed Tinker, who lives close enough to him to pay him an unexpected visit when he doesn't answer the mail... If I HAD to do business with him, it would have to be on a face to face basis. Just my $0.02, and I think they were spent wisely... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-30-2013, 10:12 AM	#19
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Ted Green (THOR) is a craftsman with Lugers. AND he answers his email, and phone... Just my $0.02 __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

07-13-2013, 08:12 PM	#2
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I've heard nothing from or about Eugene in quite some time, maybe a year or more. Keep us posted. dju

07-13-2013, 08:51 PM	#3
Ian Ox User Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: North America Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah, he's been quite responsive in the past, Eugene Golubtsov, right. I will try him again, thanks I O

07-13-2013, 08:52 PM	#4
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	According to previous forum postings, delayed response is normal because he's very busy. If interested in a gun on... for example gunbroker.com, sending a few questions to seller, and the seller never replies.... will you simply bid on it? Is buying service very different from buying a gun? Attitude is everything.

07-13-2013, 10:05 PM	#6
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 497 Thanks: 96 Thanked 144 Times in 89 Posts	some of his early works had paint-runs in the bluing finish. hope he has improved. ted greene/thor is a much better place to use.

07-13-2013, 10:56 PM	#7
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 174 Times in 96 Posts	My experience with Eugene is that when you have something on order from him and have paid the money you are hurting because he works currently on where he can get the next dollar; which is not your project as he has your money. I purchased a carbine from him and upon firing it with ammo supplied by him the shoulder stock got a small split. I've been since march trying to get the replacement sent back to me. It's been first one excuse and then another. And we are not talking small dollars. He was reasonable in length of time to do the original job; but now I don't owe him anything. He owes me - that is when his M.O. is to take WAAAAAY too long in sending out the item. Read the posts and you will see the pattern. Jack

07-13-2013, 11:02 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,960 Thanks: 2,062 Thanked 4,591 Times in 2,114 Posts	Jack, we'll see. I have a Carbine on order. He lives about 30 miles from me, I guess I could send him flowers so he'll work on mine...

07-13-2013, 11:59 PM	#9
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Ed: Have you met him? You 2 live so close you should have coffee at McDonalds in the mornings. He is an interesting character with lots of knowledge. dju

07-17-2013, 04:01 PM	#14
jsmith User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 60 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	It took 2 months for him to send a Luger Locking bolt 2 me, Every week same story, I will mail it Saturday. Asked him repeatedly to refund my money, Then he finally says he mailed it, A week and 1/2 later he asks to cofirm my address, Oh sorry he mailed out 4 locking bolts last week but not mine. Bolt came in, looks like a repro to me. I was gonna get a navy sight from him, but not now, Not worth the trouble

09-25-2013, 08:02 PM	#15
flytrout User Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 25 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi CAP Black You can get a stock from Macon gunstocks. Sorry to kick the thread these late.

09-25-2013, 08:15 PM	#16
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 174 Times in 96 Posts	flytrout: You don't understand my stock is a custom made; from a matching piece of gorgeous walnut; very well made and finished. Not just some stock. Jack

09-28-2013, 07:06 PM	#18
flytrout User Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 25 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have tried for 7 months to reach him for parts and work to be done. I tried thru email, phone, and even the two of his facebook pages. I beleive I will go some where else.