Okay, what in the world is this?

glock30 · 07-09-2013, 09:09 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzdFX6WXe-o oh ofrget it, the guy that made the 7.63X25 Luger

lugerholsterrepair · 07-09-2013, 09:13 PM

A baby Luger.

Ron Wood · 07-09-2013, 09:15 PM

Herb Werle, German gunsmith, firing a "baby" Luger that he fabricated.

ithacaartist · 07-09-2013, 09:15 PM

Looks like a "baby Luger", Gene. But wait! THERE'S MORE! http://www.youtube.com/user/HerbertWerle

The name sounds familiar...who knows about Herbert Werle? (oops, ron beat me to it)

Ben M. · 07-10-2013, 03:31 PM

web site for the german fellow.
www.waffen-werle.de

i like his combo carbine and cartridge counter features on this. (well maybe not quite a cartridge counter)
http://www.waffen-werle.de/index_htm_files/1191.jpg

John Sabato · 07-10-2013, 03:46 PM

He is also a member on this forum...

alvin · 07-10-2013, 07:09 PM

The most interesting part of Luger is the toggle. Probably that's one reason attracted many collectors (at least, initially). It works so differently from other pistols.

Are Borchardt and Luger the only two pistols mass produced applying a toggle mechanism?

Ben M. · 07-10-2013, 10:11 PM

alvin,

look up the volcanic pistol. precurser to the henry rifle.

they both had a toggle joint as part of their operating mechanics, the volcanic pistol as early as the 1850's

John Sabato · 07-11-2013, 07:12 AM

I guess that we should also consider that lever action rifle designs are also "toggle" actions, only manually operated. In addition, for those not familiar with it, the WW1 Maxim machinegun is based on a locked toggle design, but the moving toggle parts are internal to the receiver.

Ben M. · 07-13-2013, 10:54 AM

also there were some luger rifles. tho not in mass production. i also remember a photo in one of the old luger books (either datig or jones) with george sr. and george jr, and others standing out side their shop with some luger pistols and rifles.

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/earl...n-luger-rifle/

http://archive.heinessen.com/boards/...5364672039.jpg

http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/images...1342599998.jpg

glock30 · 07-19-2013, 02:10 PM

I sure would like to be him.

07-09-2013, 09:09 PM	#1
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07-09-2013, 09:13 PM	#2
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07-09-2013, 09:15 PM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	Herb Werle, German gunsmith, firing a "baby" Luger that he fabricated. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-09-2013, 09:15 PM	#4
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,369 Thanks: 7,433 Thanked 2,611 Times in 1,378 Posts	Looks like a "baby Luger", Gene. But wait! THERE'S MORE! http://www.youtube.com/user/HerbertWerle The name sounds familiar...who knows about Herbert Werle? (oops, ron beat me to it) __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

07-10-2013, 03:46 PM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	He is also a member on this forum... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

07-10-2013, 03:31 PM	#5
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 498 Thanks: 96 Thanked 145 Times in 90 Posts	web site for the german fellow. www.waffen-werle.de i like his combo carbine and cartridge counter features on this. (well maybe not quite a cartridge counter) http://www.waffen-werle.de/index_htm_files/1191.jpg

07-10-2013, 07:09 PM	#7
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	The most interesting part of Luger is the toggle. Probably that's one reason attracted many collectors (at least, initially). It works so differently from other pistols. Are Borchardt and Luger the only two pistols mass produced applying a toggle mechanism?

07-10-2013, 10:11 PM	#8
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 498 Thanks: 96 Thanked 145 Times in 90 Posts	alvin, look up the volcanic pistol. precurser to the henry rifle. they both had a toggle joint as part of their operating mechanics, the volcanic pistol as early as the 1850's

07-11-2013, 07:12 AM	#9
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	I guess that we should also consider that lever action rifle designs are also "toggle" actions, only manually operated. In addition, for those not familiar with it, the WW1 Maxim machinegun is based on a locked toggle design, but the moving toggle parts are internal to the receiver. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

07-13-2013, 10:54 AM	#10
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 498 Thanks: 96 Thanked 145 Times in 90 Posts	also there were some luger rifles. tho not in mass production. i also remember a photo in one of the old luger books (either datig or jones) with george sr. and george jr, and others standing out side their shop with some luger pistols and rifles. http://www.forgottenweapons.com/earl...n-luger-rifle/ http://archive.heinessen.com/boards/...5364672039.jpg http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/images...1342599998.jpg

07-19-2013, 02:10 PM	#11
glock30 User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Obama LAND Posts: 206 Thanks: 18 Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts	I sure would like to be him. __________________ Mauser Parabellum 10.2098 !