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08-30-2012, 12:34 PM | #1 |
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What breaks in a Luger?
After replying in the thread about how many members own but never have fired their Luger's I'm wondering, what exactly would break that would be a numbered part that people are so afraid to fire their Lugers? Replacing springs shouldn't be an issue cause they're not numbered right? For the life of me I can not understand what parts are prone to breaking the Luger seems pretty sturdy to me but then I am FAR from an expert.
So what parts on the Luger are so prone to breakage that people are afraid to fire them? What should I watch for/expect to have break in my Luger that I'll have to replace with a different numbered piece?
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I can't see the pictures but is a catastrophic failure like what he had happen common? I mean how many Lugers were made vs how many fail like his did? Anyway you an post the pics so I can see them and possibly what to look for.
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08-30-2012, 03:02 PM | #4 |
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Can you see the pictures now? In answer to your question, no, it's not common, but as you can see, it does happen. Regards, Norm
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There was a survey on the forum a while back concerning what parts break. As for numbered parts I recall it was mainly extractors and grips. I have personally broken and extractor and two ejectors. If you have nice, matching Luger another hazard of shooting is wear to the blueing, especially the grip straps. All of my Lugers are flawed shooters - I don't have the temperment to own a gun I can't shoot.
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Extractors break too...
Blowback into breech blocks that don't have relieved firing pins blow out the back of the breech block that holds the firing pin spring retainer. Marc
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Generally speaking, only the wooden and metal parts tend to break. Sometimes the plastic as well.
In other words: breakage is always an option, but not that often though. After 7 years of shooting with a refurbished 1937 S/42 this is the score: 1 extractor. 1 ejector. |
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Norme,
Perhaps a new variation? "After Market Cutaway"? Marc
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I call it spontaneous disassembly.
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I have had a breachblock blow out, not once, but twice, once using +p (bad I know, was using a long barrel luger and couldn't get it to cycle), the second was just a failure.
As said before, its your choice, they were made for shooting, but you break a part, its half the value. your choice... I have known many guys who say "I don't own a gun I won't shoot" and then I see that they have a 98% Mauser and I just think, well, my mauser will be worth more, because this one will slowly become a 95% gun Ed
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So then I probly don't have anything to worry about I guess. I mean stuff happens but I have about 2000 rounds thru mu Luger sine I started rebuilding it and I guess if something was gonna break it already would have let go.
Thanks for the pics I couldn't see em cause I'm not a member I guess, weird how it just snapped like that but I guess its a good thing that doesn't happen often or I'd be forced to conclude the Luger is an inferior gun.
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Just like anything else that has been on the market for a very long time, the luger pistol design was improved now and then. The last years the empfasis was on the steel composition. In the early years, they still had difficulty producing a coherent strong steel type, which led to differences in hardness and brittleness. An old article, about 1911, stated that barrel boring drills would sometimes wear out after doing only a few barrels, while others would last for many barrels. Also, local hardening techniques progressed over time and the quality of the spring steel improved.
Interestingly enough, Mauser, for example, did not use German steel in the early years (around the turn of the century - 1900), but Sheffield steel because of the better quality. Anyway, it is expected that early guns can be damaged easier than the later ones. Something to consider with ammunition as well: The older the gun, the milder the load. A late 1930s, early 1940s Mauser will eat just about anything. |
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The point Is that something can happen at any time. You are taking a chance every shot. If you have an expensive Collectable, you might be destroying history. If you have a lower grade Collectable, then you are only risking a bit of money.
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08-31-2012, 12:54 PM | #14 |
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Gotcha. Now I just need to figure out if I want to keep it or get rid of it cause I'm one of those guys who can't see having a gun if you can't shoot it.
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I'm handling mine with kit gloves!!Is there any way to forsee thit tragic result? Did this happen with one maker! I saw Erfurt was mentioned!
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