ID ing my Luger

[JimtheShooter]

I have a very nice P08 dated 1937 on the frame in front of and above the chamber. The pistol has all matching SNs (58xx) including one of the magazines. The pistol has S/42 on the toggle, and various proof marks at many points on the pistol. It has wooden walnut grips, checkered, with swastica stamped on the inside of each.
When I purchased the pistol at the estate sale, it came in a presentation box with two additional magazines and two swastica marked boxes (25 round each) of 9mm luger ammunition. Each round is marked "42 kam ST* 9".

I am trying to identify exactly what I have here, and the value of it.

[Arizona Slim]

First let me say welcome to the forum Jim, if you will post pictures of your pistol, including all the proof marks, numbers etc. top, bottom, both sides etc. I'm sure there are many members here that will be able to give you all the information you are looking for.

Lon

[alanint]

Welcome to the forum!!
Interesting presentation but I can tell you right now that although the actual rounds look original, those swastikas and the boxes are not. You mentioned swastikas on the inside of the grips, which also raises BS alarms. Grips were proofed and numbered. They never had swastikas stamped into them.
Lastly, the German badge is a Luftwaffe Flak Range Finder's proficiency insignia, (The Gothic "E" is for Entfernungsmesser (Range Finder)), which seems a little incongruous to the set it is included with.
In order to help you evaluate this ensemble, you would need to photograph each item seperately and in detail, so each individual piece can be judged on its own merits. As a "set", it is a previous owner's fantasy, not something that was issued or even presented by the Third Reich.
A look at the swastikas inside the grips would be very instructive.
I'm not trying to bust any bubbles here. It looks like you might have some nice items, they just don't necessarily belong together.

[Douglas Jr.]

Welcome to the forum!
Military ammo for P08s were issued in 16 rounds cardbox packages (enough for two magazines).
The Luftwaffe insignia is reversed, with its back to the front - you can see that the swastika is rotating to the wrong direction.
Looking forward to see more pictures of your Luger.
Douglas.

[JimtheShooter]

I am attempting to add a few photos that should help ID this Luger. Bubble bursting is OK if it results in information gained.
thanks.

[JimtheShooter]

Luger photos

[Edward Tinker]

ok, the markings you are showing are the acceptance and proof markings, expected to find on a 1937 luger

What works best, is separate pictures of the top, left, right, and some close ups.

It would be good to show the bases of the magazines

One of the magazines is either a post war or a swiss magazine (the bottom one in top picture)


Ed

[DavidJayUden]

There is something about the straw coloring on the trigger and especially the safety lever that concerns me, sort of like they were bead blasted and then re-strawed. Too much smooth frostyness to their finish, lacking the tool marks.
Then it could be the glare of the lighting.
Some closeups of the gun might help my tired eyes.
dju

[alanint]

I agree that the straw parts look redone. Maybe even plated with something?

[JimtheShooter]

Yea, was having more than a little camera trouble. I will try to send some better photos soon.

Thanks

[padredan]

still very nice pistol and accesories, allso welcome to the forum

[mrerick]

Jim, Welcome to the forum.

Take your pictures outdoors using indirect (shaded) light. Use a tripod, and set the camera to the close focus mode (it usually looks like a flower graphic).

Use the self timer to eliminate camera shake. If you can control the focus, do it manually, otherwise try repositioning the camera until the focus on details is sharp.

The strawed parts do also impress me as having been redone in some way. You wouldn't expect the frosted appearance.

Marc

[Norme]

Hi Jim, As others have said, the strawed parts on this gun look redone. One almost always sees some blackening in the knurling on the take down lever and grooves on the safety on original straw, no matter how pristine. What is the serial number suffix of this gun? It's located below the serial on the front of the frame. Regards, Norm

[padredan]

the display case is made by pelson, they were rather common in the late 60's to 70's . I remember getting a luger in trade that was in nearly the same case. They use to be common around gunshows back then, i bought one for a nickel python, which i still have as well as the case. Back in the day lugers were pretty common and i think alot of doctoring went on with them, the guru's on here will be able to tell you alot more than i can, but i recognise the case.