Why no Belt with Rigs?

ripcord810 · 05-04-2012, 11:55 AM

As a new member I still have alot to learn. After looking fo a rig over the last few months, I noticed I havent seen one with a belt included. Always a pistol, holster, maybe a tool, but no belt. I'm sure there is a good reason for this and would like to know why?

Kitkat041836 · 05-04-2012, 12:05 PM

Early Artillery's and Navy's came with a wood sholder stock and
a sholder strap that held the holster to the wood stock and then was looped over the sholder to be carried that way.
Hope this helps.
Thanks George

Edward Tinker · 05-04-2012, 01:24 PM

You do see them for sale every now and then but seldom with a rig.

This is my opinion, but have heard this before; After the war, most things like belts were used as belts, for machinery, for sewing machines, etc, so they literally were used up or discarded. I would guess that many were burnt by the GI's and civilians in the clean up (gear was gotten rid of).

It has been the habit of many, many dealers over the last 50 years to separate items for higher resale, i.e. extra mags, holsters, tools and I presume belts and such.

Ed

alanint · 05-04-2012, 01:25 PM

Possibly because most "captured" Lugers were obtained second hand, i.e. not directly off "The Dead German" and including the belt made it more cumbersome to keep and store. Also, most Lugers actually captured in combat were worn by NCOs, whose belt also contained a canteen, ammo pouches, two to three loops for the leather combat harness, a entrenching shovel, bayonet, breadbag, possibly a map case, etc. It was much easier for a conquering GI to simply cut the belt and pull the holster off.

05-04-2012, 11:55 AM	#1
ripcord810 User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 139 Thanks: 146 Thanked 23 Times in 16 Posts	Why no Belt with Rigs? As a new member I still have alot to learn. After looking fo a rig over the last few months, I noticed I havent seen one with a belt included. Always a pistol, holster, maybe a tool, but no belt. I'm sure there is a good reason for this and would like to know why?

05-04-2012, 12:05 PM	#2
Kitkat041836 RIP Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 195 Thanks: 0 Thanked 21 Times in 18 Posts	Rig's Early Artillery's and Navy's came with a wood sholder stock and a sholder strap that held the holster to the wood stock and then was looped over the sholder to be carried that way. Hope this helps. Thanks George

05-04-2012, 01:24 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	You do see them for sale every now and then but seldom with a rig. This is my opinion, but have heard this before; After the war, most things like belts were used as belts, for machinery, for sewing machines, etc, so they literally were used up or discarded. I would guess that many were burnt by the GI's and civilians in the clean up (gear was gotten rid of). It has been the habit of many, many dealers over the last 50 years to separate items for higher resale, i.e. extra mags, holsters, tools and I presume belts and such. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-04-2012, 01:25 PM	#4
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Possibly because most "captured" Lugers were obtained second hand, i.e. not directly off "The Dead German" and including the belt made it more cumbersome to keep and store. Also, most Lugers actually captured in combat were worn by NCOs, whose belt also contained a canteen, ammo pouches, two to three loops for the leather combat harness, a entrenching shovel, bayonet, breadbag, possibly a map case, etc. It was much easier for a conquering GI to simply cut the belt and pull the holster off.