The "JEWEL" Revisted

Thor · 02-06-2012, 02:16 PM

Sometimes fun to look at these old Lugers. These are a SHOOTER variation I called a TDJ, meaning Total Doll Job. The Jewel was done for DOK here on the forum.

FNorm · 02-06-2012, 03:13 PM

Wow

Vlim · 02-06-2012, 03:24 PM

In defence of the 'donor gun'.

It looks like it was an all-original VoPo P08, which a newly made VoPo side plate, nice Crown/Crown U repair markings on the receiver and frame, and a police district marking on the front rail. I wouldn't have restored this, but kept it 'as is', as it was, as ugly it may look, a valid P08 configuration of the cold war era.

But then again, even Mauser refurbished some of the former VoPo's for resale in 1997 and 1998, so you are in good company

Arizona Slim · 02-06-2012, 03:30 PM

Ted, to say that that pistol turned out absolutely fantastic would be an understatement. Great work.

Lon

rhuff · 02-06-2012, 04:01 PM

That is a beautiful restoration....great work. I have a feeling that we may be talking about some work in the not too distant future.

John Sabato · 02-06-2012, 04:32 PM

I have had the pleasure of having lunch with Dok on more than one occasion during some of his infrequent visits to the Washington DC area...

For those who don't know... Dok is our Webmaster Emeritus...

The subject of his Jewel always comes up... your work amazes the new folks today the same way it did all of us a decade or so ago when you did that one Thor!

What a transformation... if "restoration" was defined in a gunsmith dictionary... your before and after pictures would be there to give a clear meaning... She went into your shop a tired old lady and came out as graceful as the day she left the factory...

CavScoutEurope · 02-06-2012, 04:48 PM

Just out of curiosity, what do you do with the VOPO grips after you do a restoration?

Thor · 02-06-2012, 04:54 PM

Return them to the client if he wants them, I dont remember what we did with those, I am sure Tom Heller (Lugerdoc) has some if you want any.

Lewis Fifer · 02-06-2012, 05:38 PM

Would all of you still call this a shooter with little or no value? I would be proud to own this one, Lewis Fifer

lugerholsterrepair · 02-06-2012, 08:26 PM

Lewis..Would all of you still call this a shooter with little or no value?

There is value and then there is value..Ted's work certainly enhanced the pistol's condition from a beat up old warhorse to a stunning metamorphasis of beauty.

As nice as it is..it will never have the original Imperial grips or finish it came with. That affects the pistol in some way but Ted's restoration brings it closer to my preference than the old VOPO look.

Once a pistol has lost some parts it will never be like an original which most collectors like..Does it have value like it is? I think so..Just not as much as if the pistol were 100% original with the same finish..

Very nice job Ted.

Thor · 02-07-2012, 11:09 AM

Someone would invariably kid me about the 357 box the Luger was sitting on saying something like, I didnt know it was chambered as a 357. Or some of my old pics with a blue pen coming out of the muzzle like a laser. Tom Armstrong used to do that. I miss him.

Ron Wood · 02-07-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Thor

...Tom Armstrong used to do that. I miss him.

A lot of us miss him. His demise was way too soon.

Ted, is there any chance of some work in progress photos? Your metal prep is unbelievable and I think folks would enjoy seeing some examples.

Thor · 02-07-2012, 11:59 AM

Tom's knowledge of Navy Lugers was incredible. Yep Ron, I will try and post some DURING pictures of the DWM Double Date Disaster I have been working on. I am suffering from a week long bout with a stomach virus that my sweet kids bestowed upon me so the going is slow. Ah...the benefits of public schools! Here is a code 480 Walther P.38 I did a few years back. You may remember this one, and it has a DURING picture.

Mwland · 02-07-2012, 05:36 PM

Great work! How long from start to finish does it take for you to do a restore like that?

Thor · 02-07-2012, 06:26 PM

Mwland, it depends on what I have to do to each one, what I have going on at the time, what guns I have coming back from my engraver, if we needed to do any welding of deep pitting. One that only needs my attention might run anywhere from a week or two when I start on it. A really bad one might need a bit more. Arrival to departure time also depends on back log.

the gunman · 02-08-2012, 11:55 AM

" My Word" Beautyful work

ithacaartist · 02-08-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by the gunman

" my word" beautyful work

+1!

02-06-2012, 02:16 PM	#1
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	The "JEWEL" Revisted Sometimes fun to look at these old Lugers. These are a SHOOTER variation I called a TDJ, meaning Total Doll Job. The Jewel was done for DOK here on the forum. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

02-06-2012, 03:24 PM	#3
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	In defence of the 'donor gun'. It looks like it was an all-original VoPo P08, which a newly made VoPo side plate, nice Crown/Crown U repair markings on the receiver and frame, and a police district marking on the front rail. I wouldn't have restored this, but kept it 'as is', as it was, as ugly it may look, a valid P08 configuration of the cold war era. But then again, even Mauser refurbished some of the former VoPo's for resale in 1997 and 1998, so you are in good company Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

02-06-2012, 04:32 PM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	I have had the pleasure of having lunch with Dok on more than one occasion during some of his infrequent visits to the Washington DC area... For those who don't know... Dok is our Webmaster Emeritus... The subject of his Jewel always comes up... your work amazes the new folks today the same way it did all of us a decade or so ago when you did that one Thor! What a transformation... if "restoration" was defined in a gunsmith dictionary... your before and after pictures would be there to give a clear meaning... She went into your shop a tired old lady and came out as graceful as the day she left the factory... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-06-2012, 04:54 PM	#8
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Return them to the client if he wants them, I dont remember what we did with those, I am sure Tom Heller (Lugerdoc) has some if you want any. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

02-06-2012, 08:26 PM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Lewis..Would all of you still call this a shooter with little or no value? There is value and then there is value..Ted's work certainly enhanced the pistol's condition from a beat up old warhorse to a stunning metamorphasis of beauty. As nice as it is..it will never have the original Imperial grips or finish it came with. That affects the pistol in some way but Ted's restoration brings it closer to my preference than the old VOPO look. Once a pistol has lost some parts it will never be like an original which most collectors like..Does it have value like it is? I think so..Just not as much as if the pistol were 100% original with the same finish.. Very nice job Ted. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

02-06-2012, 03:13 PM	#2
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Wow

02-06-2012, 03:30 PM	#4
Arizona Slim Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 706 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 409 Times in 225 Posts	Ted, to say that that pistol turned out absolutely fantastic would be an understatement. Great work. Lon

02-06-2012, 04:01 PM	#5
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,308 Thanks: 2,737 Thanked 993 Times in 729 Posts	That is a beautiful restoration....great work. I have a feeling that we may be talking about some work in the not too distant future.

02-06-2012, 04:48 PM	#7
CavScoutEurope User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 86 Thanks: 102 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts	Just out of curiosity, what do you do with the VOPO grips after you do a restoration?

02-06-2012, 05:38 PM	#9
Lewis Fifer User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NC Posts: 37 Thanks: 16 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Would all of you still call this a shooter with little or no value? I would be proud to own this one, Lewis Fifer

02-07-2012, 11:09 AM	#11
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Someone would invariably kid me about the 357 box the Luger was sitting on saying something like, I didnt know it was chambered as a 357. Or some of my old pics with a blue pen coming out of the muzzle like a laser. Tom Armstrong used to do that. I miss him. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

02-07-2012, 11:59 AM	#13
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Tom's knowledge of Navy Lugers was incredible. Yep Ron, I will try and post some DURING pictures of the DWM Double Date Disaster I have been working on. I am suffering from a week long bout with a stomach virus that my sweet kids bestowed upon me so the going is slow. Ah...the benefits of public schools! Here is a code 480 Walther P.38 I did a few years back. You may remember this one, and it has a DURING picture. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

02-07-2012, 05:36 PM	#14
Mwland User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 22 Thanks: 14 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Great work! How long from start to finish does it take for you to do a restore like that?

02-07-2012, 06:26 PM	#15
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Mwland, it depends on what I have to do to each one, what I have going on at the time, what guns I have coming back from my engraver, if we needed to do any welding of deep pitting. One that only needs my attention might run anywhere from a week or two when I start on it. A really bad one might need a bit more. Arrival to departure time also depends on back log. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

02-08-2012, 11:55 AM	#16
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	" My Word" Beautyful work