Mismatch Shooter Luger

Thor · 02-08-2002, 12:36 PM

Got a Russian rework in today. Has a DWM toggle, chamber date ground off. Does NOT have a crown N so it is NOT a 1920 DWM. Serial is in the range for a 1937 Mauser XXXXs and has Mauser acceptance stamps on the right receiver for that time period. The barrel doesnt have a sharp band like a Mauser and the serial number looks very high (too high) to be right. No frame hump! Pretty fair condition though so that is a plus! I hope it works okay! ~Thor~

Lonnie Zimmerman · 02-08-2002, 01:39 PM

Lonnie Zimmerman · 02-08-2002, 01:41 PM

Sorry Thor; meant to post message-P-38 is coming to you next week!!

Lonnie

02-09-2002, 10:37 AM

Thor, I've seen several of this type of rework. The only reason that I can think of that they would have ground off the chamber dates and replaced the Mauser mid toggle link with a DWM, is to disguise them as non-nazi era, for legal sale in Germany. Tom h.

02-09-2002, 08:56 PM

Tom, I hadn't thought about that.

So, after the war (not the war to end all wars, but the other one), what did East Germany do with their Lugers? Is it then that they started to rework and reblue them? A year or so later.

Is there any information on this interesting angle?

The western side, they had hundreds of thousands of Lugers, they tried to confiscate as many as possible, and those that were used by Police and such, what was the story? Did the military issue P-38's, Lugers, mixture what after the war? i imagine they issued anything and then standardized later? That is what I would do with the Russian horde possibly approaching... Fulda gap and all.

Anyone?

Ed

02-10-2002, 09:31 AM

ED, No one has yet published, at least in English, a comprehensive analysis of the EG Luger conversions. Warren Buxton has covered the P38s very well in his Vol 3 of "The P38 Pistol". I'm sure much of his analysis will also apply equally to the EG lugers. Judging from the dates (eg 853 -- August 1953) on replacement barrels, most of these pistols were reworked in 1953 for use by the EG VOPO and other origanizations. I've also heard stories of these turning up in Lebanon, Chile and other socialist "wars of liberation". I'm sure that the Soviets, appreciated the "plausible deniability" of these former Nazi small arms. Tom h

02-08-2002, 12:36 PM	#1
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Mismatch Shooter Luger Got a Russian rework in today. Has a DWM toggle, chamber date ground off. Does NOT have a crown N so it is NOT a 1920 DWM. Serial is in the range for a 1937 Mauser XXXXs and has Mauser acceptance stamps on the right receiver for that time period. The barrel doesnt have a sharp band like a Mauser and the serial number looks very high (too high) to be right. No frame hump! Pretty fair condition though so that is a plus! I hope it works okay! ~Thor~

02-08-2002, 01:39 PM	#2
Lonnie Zimmerman User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 523 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Mismatch Shooter Luger (EOM)

02-08-2002, 01:41 PM	#3
Lonnie Zimmerman User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 523 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Mismatch Shooter Luger Sorry Thor; meant to post message-P-38 is coming to you next week!! Lonnie

02-09-2002, 10:37 AM	#4
tom h Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Mismatch Shooter Luger Thor, I've seen several of this type of rework. The only reason that I can think of that they would have ground off the chamber dates and replaced the Mauser mid toggle link with a DWM, is to disguise them as non-nazi era, for legal sale in Germany. Tom h.

02-09-2002, 08:56 PM	#5
66mustang Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Mismatch Shooter Luger Tom, I hadn't thought about that. So, after the war (not the war to end all wars, but the other one), what did East Germany do with their Lugers? Is it then that they started to rework and reblue them? A year or so later. Is there any information on this interesting angle? The western side, they had hundreds of thousands of Lugers, they tried to confiscate as many as possible, and those that were used by Police and such, what was the story? Did the military issue P-38's, Lugers, mixture what after the war? i imagine they issued anything and then standardized later? That is what I would do with the Russian horde possibly approaching... Fulda gap and all. Anyone? Ed

02-10-2002, 09:31 AM	#6
tom h Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Mismatch Shooter Luger ED, No one has yet published, at least in English, a comprehensive analysis of the EG Luger conversions. Warren Buxton has covered the P38s very well in his Vol 3 of "The P38 Pistol". I'm sure much of his analysis will also apply equally to the EG lugers. Judging from the dates (eg 853 -- August 1953) on replacement barrels, most of these pistols were reworked in 1953 for use by the EG VOPO and other origanizations. I've also heard stories of these turning up in Lebanon, Chile and other socialist "wars of liberation". I'm sure that the Soviets, appreciated the "plausible deniability" of these former Nazi small arms. Tom h