I'm lost (1915 DWM)

VJJpunisher · 08-31-2011, 04:23 PM

I'm new and dont know what to do (said in joe dirt voice)

This is an awsome site with tons of good info, newly found for me cause I just got my first Luger, its a 1915 matching numbers DWM. I'm quite happy with it, the problem is even with my mad internet yoda searchings I can't find what the 84 on the front strap means. Its alone and centered and just an 84. Is this a unit stock number or "rack" number or do I have a million dollar one of a kind? please help

Edward Tinker · 08-31-2011, 04:36 PM

it is the serial number most likely and under the barrel, is probably the 84 and then something like 8,83 or 8,84

lugers were made in blocks of 10,000 (see the FAQ above) for further info

since they were made in blocks of 10,000 you might have say, the 84th made that year, but that is not considered rare and valuable, sorry.

Ed

Norme · 08-31-2011, 04:45 PM

Hi Charles, Welcome to the forum? Can you post a photo? I'm not quite clear as to where this number is situated. Regards, Norm

DavidJayUden · 08-31-2011, 04:56 PM

Well, we can assume that there are at least 83 others...
dju

VJJpunisher · 09-01-2011, 11:05 AM

thanks for the replies. I will get some pictures of it once i get home from work this evening, but the 84 is right in the middle of the frontstrap and can be read horizontally and not vertically

VJJpunisher · 09-04-2011, 11:17 AM

sorry took a lil bit to fugure out how to correctly post a pic

Edward Tinker · 09-04-2011, 12:59 PM

I would say it is the weapon number

Perhaps at one point it had a unit marking, but maybe not, there was a small period of time where armorers were told to just put the unit number on the gun and this might be one of those interpretations, either during war or after the war.

ed

VJJpunisher · 09-05-2011, 11:19 AM

i heard a tale where Hitler smoked himself with a DWM Luger. After discovering the body 84 Russian Soldiers danced on his corpse. The highest Ranking officer in the group kept the luger and had 84 stamped on the frontstrap in memorium to his commrades.

what your telling me is there's the slightest possibility that this may be false?

skilled · 09-06-2011, 11:05 PM

You do know that its a myth the Hitler shot himself with a Luger right? Or at least thats what they say on the history channel lol. they say he shot himself with a Walther ppk 380. One of his personal carry side arms. But if you really think about it. The body was destroyed and a 380 and 9mm is the same caliber...how could they really tell?

Redbone311 · 09-06-2011, 11:09 PM

Actually that story is quite correct..... except for one thing. It was 66 Russians and I have that Luger. LOL

mcg · 09-07-2011, 11:49 AM

PPK .380? Or 7.62, .32 cal?
Just wondering.
Mark

VJJpunisher · 09-07-2011, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redbone311

Actually that story is quite correct..... except for one thing. It was 66 Russians and I have that Luger. LOL

no no no, the 66 DWM was what jesse james carried at the OK corral, collectable to be sure but a different luger all together

alanint · 09-07-2011, 09:47 PM

I'm so glad to see new members adding so much to the board's collective knowledge......

Edward Tinker · 09-08-2011, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by alanint

I'm so glad to see new members adding so much to the board's collective knowledge......

I agree, some of the mods can be sooooo uppity

VJJpunisher · 09-08-2011, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanint

I'm so glad to see new members adding so much to the board's collective knowledge......

if this was a stab, well then I apologize for my joking. I've been in the Army for 14 years now and if there has been one thing i've learned it's that people need to smile and laugh more

alanint · 09-08-2011, 06:55 PM

No apology necessary. We do like to have fun here as well, but we also like to know who you are before sharing that aspect of ourselves. Not to sound too uptight, but we have had several occasions where new arrivals simply ran at the mouth without adding much to the board. As an Army vet, I'm sure you can appreciate that.

Thanks for your service and welcome.

hgreer2 · 09-08-2011, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VJJpunisher

if this was a stab, well then I apologize for my joking. I've been in the Army for 14 years now and if there has been one thing i've learned it's that people need to smile and laugh more

Just to save you a little grief, humor is not really encouraged here. At least mine isn't. Veteran's are my favorite people !

Harry

08-31-2011, 04:23 PM	#1
VJJpunisher User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 28 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I'm lost (1915 DWM) I'm new and dont know what to do (said in joe dirt voice) This is an awsome site with tons of good info, newly found for me cause I just got my first Luger, its a 1915 matching numbers DWM. I'm quite happy with it, the problem is even with my mad internet yoda searchings I can't find what the 84 on the front strap means. Its alone and centered and just an 84. Is this a unit stock number or "rack" number or do I have a million dollar one of a kind? please help

08-31-2011, 04:36 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,995 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	it is the serial number most likely and under the barrel, is probably the 84 and then something like 8,83 or 8,84 lugers were made in blocks of 10,000 (see the FAQ above) for further info since they were made in blocks of 10,000 you might have say, the 84th made that year, but that is not considered rare and valuable, sorry. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-04-2011, 11:17 AM	#6
VJJpunisher User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 28 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	sorry took a lil bit to fugure out how to correctly post a pic Attached Thumbnails

09-04-2011, 12:59 PM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,995 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	I would say it is the weapon number Perhaps at one point it had a unit marking, but maybe not, there was a small period of time where armorers were told to just put the unit number on the gun and this might be one of those interpretations, either during war or after the war. ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-31-2011, 04:45 PM	#3
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,415 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,594 Times in 931 Posts	Hi Charles, Welcome to the forum? Can you post a photo? I'm not quite clear as to where this number is situated. Regards, Norm

08-31-2011, 04:56 PM	#4
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Well, we can assume that there are at least 83 others... dju

09-01-2011, 11:05 AM	#5
VJJpunisher User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 28 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	thanks for the replies. I will get some pictures of it once i get home from work this evening, but the 84 is right in the middle of the frontstrap and can be read horizontally and not vertically

09-05-2011, 11:19 AM	#8
VJJpunisher User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 28 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	i heard a tale where Hitler smoked himself with a DWM Luger. After discovering the body 84 Russian Soldiers danced on his corpse. The highest Ranking officer in the group kept the luger and had 84 stamped on the frontstrap in memorium to his commrades. what your telling me is there's the slightest possibility that this may be false?

09-06-2011, 11:05 PM	#9
skilled User Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	You do know that its a myth the Hitler shot himself with a Luger right? Or at least thats what they say on the history channel lol. they say he shot himself with a Walther ppk 380. One of his personal carry side arms. But if you really think about it. The body was destroyed and a 380 and 9mm is the same caliber...how could they really tell?

09-06-2011, 11:09 PM	#10
Redbone311 User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 6 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Actually that story is quite correct..... except for one thing. It was 66 Russians and I have that Luger. LOL

09-07-2011, 11:49 AM	#11
mcg Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston, TX. Posts: 90 Thanks: 255 Thanked 28 Times in 20 Posts	PPK .380? Or 7.62, .32 cal? Just wondering. Mark

09-07-2011, 09:47 PM	#13
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	I'm so glad to see new members adding so much to the board's collective knowledge......

09-08-2011, 06:55 PM	#16
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	No apology necessary. We do like to have fun here as well, but we also like to know who you are before sharing that aspect of ourselves. Not to sound too uptight, but we have had several occasions where new arrivals simply ran at the mouth without adding much to the board. As an Army vet, I'm sure you can appreciate that. Thanks for your service and welcome.