Efurt 1916 Photoshoot & Opinions wanted

phatrick88 · 07-30-2010, 11:49 PM

This is my third Luger, but first WWI variation. Provisional 6/7 unit marked from the Weimer era and went on to see much service in WWII (Thanks, Ron) before it was brought back by a vet. Straight from a retirement community to myself. Came to me as being a 85-90%, all matching gun. So far i've found an unnumbered rear toggle pin, mag with only the last two serial #'s stamped (forced matched when it was re-issued?) and the side plate has a slightly different patina from the rest of the gun, though this seems to be not uncommon. Seems to be a nice, honest piece otherwise. Is there anyway to safely clean up the straw parts, or should I leave them be? Thought i'd share some pictures and see if you guys can pick anything out that i'm missing. Tell me what you think

Norme · 07-31-2010, 12:11 AM

Hi Pat, Luger side plates frequently show bluing loss. I believe that this part's heat treatment affects the way they retain bluing. As to the strawed parts, don't touch them! The black spots are a guarantee of originality. Regards, norm

MFC · 07-31-2010, 01:35 AM

Pat,
The unnumbered rear axle pin is correct for your Erfurt and DWM's. Mauser started numbering the pins on K dates (1934).
The grips have been recheckered.

Ron Smith · 07-31-2010, 08:21 AM

Norm is correct. Leave the black specks on the strawed parts. Clean , bright, unblemished strawed parts are a red flag.

Ron

Don M · 07-31-2010, 10:46 AM

Coincidentally, a Luger with the same provisional 6/7 marking on the left frame has been on GunBroker for some time now; however, I can't find it now.

07-30-2010, 11:49 PM	#1
phatrick88 User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: MN Posts: 54 Thanks: 7 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Efurt 1916 Photoshoot & Opinions wanted This is my third Luger, but first WWI variation. Provisional 6/7 unit marked from the Weimer era and went on to see much service in WWII (Thanks, Ron) before it was brought back by a vet. Straight from a retirement community to myself. Came to me as being a 85-90%, all matching gun. So far i've found an unnumbered rear toggle pin, mag with only the last two serial #'s stamped (forced matched when it was re-issued?) and the side plate has a slightly different patina from the rest of the gun, though this seems to be not uncommon. Seems to be a nice, honest piece otherwise. Is there anyway to safely clean up the straw parts, or should I leave them be? Thought i'd share some pictures and see if you guys can pick anything out that i'm missing. Tell me what you think Attached Thumbnails

07-31-2010, 12:11 AM	#2
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Pat, Luger side plates frequently show bluing loss. I believe that this part's heat treatment affects the way they retain bluing. As to the strawed parts, don't touch them! The black spots are a guarantee of originality. Regards, norm Attached Thumbnails

07-31-2010, 01:35 AM	#3
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Pat, The unnumbered rear axle pin is correct for your Erfurt and DWM's. Mauser started numbering the pins on K dates (1934). The grips have been recheckered. __________________ Mike C.

07-31-2010, 08:21 AM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Norm is correct. Leave the black specks on the strawed parts. Clean , bright, unblemished strawed parts are a red flag. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

07-31-2010, 10:46 AM	#5
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	Coincidentally, a Luger with the same provisional 6/7 marking on the left frame has been on GunBroker for some time now; however, I can't find it now. __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com