Help me please

DWM1916 · 04-15-2010, 03:52 AM

HI, i'm Stefano from Italy i have buy a luger p08 DWM 1916, is my frist p08

On grip panels ther are a number, the stile carcter is not tipical of the period... What we think about it? Fake? Why? Why on the grip panel?

The gun is " ritubata " in 30 luger

How many cost this gun in yor state?

In italy i have pay this gun 800 euro

Saluti Stefano .

DavidJayUden · 04-15-2010, 08:17 AM

S:
Welcome! Can you photo the numbers on the front of the frame AND under the barrel for us. More photos please.
dju

FNorm · 04-15-2010, 08:59 AM

Welcome, Stefano.

It appears that you have a very nice 1916. I can't help you with the markings inside the grips. But we have more experienced people here who might. If all the numbers match it would sell here for about the same price. $1100 USD. The USA is a large country with local markets. It might be less in some areas, a little more in others.

FN

mrerick · 04-15-2010, 10:21 PM

That looks like a very nice DWM. Congratulations!

DWM1916 · 04-16-2010, 01:42 AM

Yes , all the numbers match,

For new photos i wll do in this weekend.

Ciao Stefano

klaus 3338 · 04-16-2010, 01:54 AM

The grip inscibtion is a unit mark and means Infantrie Regiment 43, 5. Kompagnie, Waffe Nr. 17.
The honor name was Herzog Karl von Mecklenburg Strelitz. Station for the II Bataillon and the 5. company was Pillau- the rest of the regiment was in Königsberg. It was part of the 1. army corps.
It is the first time that I saw a unit mark on the grips but I think that it was made in 1916 and not in our days. I have no idea what the meaning of the G is.
You got a nice Luger and 800 Euro was not too much.
Regards Klaus

DWM1916 · 04-16-2010, 06:11 AM

In the italian luger forum, think is a fake, because the style of the caracter are not tipical of the period, and not resprect the place for this number.

"Effettivamente, la sede di impressione dei marchi di reparto non è consona con i regolamenti dell'epoca imperiale (D.V.E. nr. 185: Vorschrift ueber das Stempels der Handwaffen, Berlino 29 gennaio 1909) e di quella successiva (Repubblica di Weimar: Kriegsministerium nr. 352/6. 19. B3, Berlino 25 giugno 1919)."

Saluti Stefano

Lugerdoc · 04-16-2010, 09:07 AM

Stefano, Nice looking luger. Too bad that they could not sell it with the original 9mm barrel. It would be consided a mismatched shooter in the USA and devalued from the "all matching" price. TH

Ron Smith · 04-16-2010, 09:28 AM

Stefano,

Can you post a photo of the serial number on the bottom of the barrel?

Ron

04-15-2010, 03:52 AM	#1
DWM1916 New User Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help me please HI, i'm Stefano from Italy i have buy a luger p08 DWM 1916, is my frist p08 On grip panels ther are a number, the stile carcter is not tipical of the period... What we think about it? Fake? Why? Why on the grip panel? The gun is " ritubata " in 30 luger How many cost this gun in yor state? In italy i have pay this gun 800 euro Saluti Stefano . Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

04-16-2010, 06:11 AM	#7
DWM1916 New User Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	. In the italian luger forum, think is a fake, because the style of the caracter are not tipical of the period, and not resprect the place for this number. "Effettivamente, la sede di impressione dei marchi di reparto non è consona con i regolamenti dell'epoca imperiale (D.V.E. nr. 185: Vorschrift ueber das Stempels der Handwaffen, Berlino 29 gennaio 1909) e di quella successiva (Repubblica di Weimar: Kriegsministerium nr. 352/6. 19. B3, Berlino 25 giugno 1919)." Saluti Stefano

04-16-2010, 09:07 AM	#8
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Stefano, Nice looking luger. Too bad that they could not sell it with the original 9mm barrel. It would be consided a mismatched shooter in the USA and devalued from the "all matching" price. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

04-16-2010, 09:28 AM	#9
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Stefano, Can you post a photo of the serial number on the bottom of the barrel? Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

04-15-2010, 08:17 AM	#2
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	S: Welcome! Can you photo the numbers on the front of the frame AND under the barrel for us. More photos please. dju

04-15-2010, 08:59 AM	#3
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Welcome, Stefano. It appears that you have a very nice 1916. I can't help you with the markings inside the grips. But we have more experienced people here who might. If all the numbers match it would sell here for about the same price. $1100 USD. The USA is a large country with local markets. It might be less in some areas, a little more in others. FN

04-15-2010, 10:21 PM	#4
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	That looks like a very nice DWM. Congratulations!

04-16-2010, 01:42 AM	#5
DWM1916 New User Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes , all the numbers match, For new photos i wll do in this weekend. Ciao Stefano

04-16-2010, 01:54 AM	#6
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 517 Thanks: 0 Thanked 411 Times in 160 Posts	The grip inscibtion is a unit mark and means Infantrie Regiment 43, 5. Kompagnie, Waffe Nr. 17. The honor name was Herzog Karl von Mecklenburg Strelitz. Station for the II Bataillon and the 5. company was Pillau- the rest of the regiment was in Königsberg. It was part of the 1. army corps. It is the first time that I saw a unit mark on the grips but I think that it was made in 1916 and not in our days. I have no idea what the meaning of the G is. You got a nice Luger and 800 Euro was not too much. Regards Klaus