1940 byf question

PaFrank · 03-29-2010, 07:58 PM

New guy here..........

I bought it 35 years ago, and if I remember, I was told something about the 1940 byf being special, but can't remember why.

Here is the dope on it.

Frame: 323 proof mark below looks like a stylized F with a crown
Receiver eagle proof on right side, 1940 over chamber. 323 on left side
sideplate: 23 No number stamped on underside.
Sideplate latch: 23
Toggle pin: 23
Extractor: 23 with a proof mark
bolt:23
front toggle link: byf and 23
Rear toggle link: 23
Barrel: on underside, 323 over 42 over 882 or 832
Saftey: 23
Saftey bar: 23
Trigger: 23
Firing pin: unmarked that I can see.

2 aluminum bottom mags (fxo i think) and an original holster is only fair shape.

Would this be considered all matching? I'm concerned about the barrel, but the witness marks line up perfectly.

I'm not sure where to look for a letter suffix, but didn't see any other marks on it.

So my question is, What do I have? Anything special? or just a run of the mill mostly matching luger?

Thanks for your help!

DavidJayUden · 03-29-2010, 08:16 PM

There are no run-of-the-mill Lugers...
dju

FNorm · 03-29-2010, 08:39 PM

PaFrank,

Sounds like you have an all matching luger. The odd thing is that, according to my books, the byf code wasn't introduced until Feb 1941. So there's the anomaly. But wait for the more experienced guys to check in. Pictures would help.

FN

tharpo · 03-29-2010, 10:08 PM

PaFrank,
On page 95 of Jan Stills book, "Third Reich Lugers" he shows a 1940 byf of which he calls "out of sequence". Here is a thread I started on Jan's forum on the subject in which I was looking for information on my 1940 byf.
http://luger.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=17972

Tom

mrerick · 03-29-2010, 10:20 PM

Could a 1940 frame have made it into 1941 production?

Marc

Norme · 03-29-2010, 10:38 PM

Hi Marc, There is a picture of an out-of-sequence 1940 byf on page 95, Third Reich Lugers. According to Jan, after regular Luger production ceased in1942, some additional guns were assembled from left over parts through 1944. Regards, Norm

PaFrank · 04-04-2010, 03:09 PM

Hey guys, thanks for all the replies. So what might this thing be worth? It is the only Luger I own, and I want to sell it so I can get some new toys..

I'll post some pictures soon...

03-29-2010, 07:58 PM	#1
PaFrank New User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Delaware Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1940 byf question New guy here.......... I bought it 35 years ago, and if I remember, I was told something about the 1940 byf being special, but can't remember why. Here is the dope on it. Frame: 323 proof mark below looks like a stylized F with a crown Receiver eagle proof on right side, 1940 over chamber. 323 on left side sideplate: 23 No number stamped on underside. Sideplate latch: 23 Toggle pin: 23 Extractor: 23 with a proof mark bolt:23 front toggle link: byf and 23 Rear toggle link: 23 Barrel: on underside, 323 over 42 over 882 or 832 Saftey: 23 Saftey bar: 23 Trigger: 23 Firing pin: unmarked that I can see. 2 aluminum bottom mags (fxo i think) and an original holster is only fair shape. Would this be considered all matching? I'm concerned about the barrel, but the witness marks line up perfectly. I'm not sure where to look for a letter suffix, but didn't see any other marks on it. So my question is, What do I have? Anything special? or just a run of the mill mostly matching luger? Thanks for your help!

03-29-2010, 08:16 PM	#2
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	There are no run-of-the-mill Lugers... dju

03-29-2010, 08:39 PM	#3
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	PaFrank, Sounds like you have an all matching luger. The odd thing is that, according to my books, the byf code wasn't introduced until Feb 1941. So there's the anomaly. But wait for the more experienced guys to check in. Pictures would help. FN

03-29-2010, 10:08 PM	#4
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 543 Thanks: 118 Thanked 383 Times in 158 Posts	PaFrank, On page 95 of Jan Stills book, "Third Reich Lugers" he shows a 1940 byf of which he calls "out of sequence". Here is a thread I started on Jan's forum on the subject in which I was looking for information on my 1940 byf. http://luger.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=17972 Tom

03-29-2010, 10:20 PM	#5
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,919 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	Could a 1940 frame have made it into 1941 production? Marc

03-29-2010, 10:38 PM	#6
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Marc, There is a picture of an out-of-sequence 1940 byf on page 95, Third Reich Lugers. According to Jan, after regular Luger production ceased in1942, some additional guns were assembled from left over parts through 1944. Regards, Norm

04-04-2010, 03:09 PM	#7
PaFrank New User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Delaware Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey guys, thanks for all the replies. So what might this thing be worth? It is the only Luger I own, and I want to sell it so I can get some new toys.. I'll post some pictures soon...