Luger grip safety profiles and sizes?

Jasta2 · 12-07-2009, 08:08 PM

Most photos of Lugers with grip safeties I found only show the side view of the Luger as a whole. My 1900 AE grip safety looks to come about 2/3 thirds across the back strap. I have notices others the full width of the back starp. Is there a standard for this? Or do the just vari to the model of Luger? I notice the 'Swiss' had a rather long grip strap. From what I gather almost all 1900-1906 Models had a grip safety. After that was it mostly various commercial that had a grip safety? I take the military requested the grip safety removed to be accepted. I take one exception was the 1934/06 dated Mauser that had a grip safety, again for commerical sales.
Any rear pictures of grip safeties?
Thanks,Bill

Edward Tinker · 12-07-2009, 08:25 PM

What is a 1934/06??? What book is that from?

All 1900's had grip safeties; all 1906 had them; then there were contract pieces that required them, i.e. the Dutch, and the portuguesse; made in the 1906 "style" but not named 1906.

Bill, not trying to be difficult, but a few luger books in your collection might help you; although old, Kenyon has many pictures, but also some inaccuracies; then Still's books, then Walters books and you can easily pick up Datig and then Jones for some older, outdated, but still lots of pertinenet info.

Ed

Ron Wood · 12-07-2009, 09:34 PM

The "1934/06" is just a designation indicating the year of manufacture/configuration. The 1934 Mauser Commercial fits this designation being a Mauser "banner" commercial with a 1906 style frame and grip safety. The Portuguese GNR could be considered a 1935/06. Keynyon's "Lugers at Random" is a book reference. Although outdated, it remains a primary reference.

The Swiss, Bulgarian, German Navy, Dutch, US Test, Portuguese and Brazilian Lugers are military examples with a grip safety. The remainder of the grip safety models are by and large Commercial models and can be found on Model 1900, 1906, 1908, 1914, 1920 and 1930s-era Commercial Lugers. Whether the "Russian" Lugers are military or commercial is still part of the controversy!

Early Model 1900 grip safeties extended only about half-way across the grip. According to data collected by Dwight Gruber, around serial number 10010 the grip safety was widened to the full width of the grip strap and remained that way througout the rest of Luger production. With the introduction of the Model 1929 Swiss, the grip safety was made into a "wrap-around" configuration that enclosed both sides of the grip strap and was significantly longer top to bottom than previous models. This type of wrap-arouind safety configuration was continued on the 1970s Mauser replicas.

Edward Tinker · 12-07-2009, 09:36 PM

Sorry, I have never seen a Mauser with a grip safety.

Jasta2 · 12-07-2009, 10:55 PM

Thanks Ed & Ron. Yes there are a couple of Luger books on my Christmas list!! And yes, the 1934/06 Mauser is in the Kenyon book. I take they must be quite rare.

Thor · 12-10-2009, 09:37 AM

Third Reich Lugers page 199 had a picture of a Portuguese GNR by Mauser in the 06/34 configuration with Mauser Banner toggle code.

12-07-2009, 08:08 PM	#1
Jasta2 User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lakeland, Fl. Posts: 514 Thanks: 349 Thanked 101 Times in 52 Posts	Luger grip safety profiles and sizes? Most photos of Lugers with grip safeties I found only show the side view of the Luger as a whole. My 1900 AE grip safety looks to come about 2/3 thirds across the back strap. I have notices others the full width of the back starp. Is there a standard for this? Or do the just vari to the model of Luger? I notice the 'Swiss' had a rather long grip strap. From what I gather almost all 1900-1906 Models had a grip safety. After that was it mostly various commercial that had a grip safety? I take the military requested the grip safety removed to be accepted. I take one exception was the 1934/06 dated Mauser that had a grip safety, again for commerical sales. Any rear pictures of grip safeties? Thanks,Bill

12-07-2009, 08:25 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	What is a 1934/06??? What book is that from? All 1900's had grip safeties; all 1906 had them; then there were contract pieces that required them, i.e. the Dutch, and the portuguesse; made in the 1906 "style" but not named 1906. Bill, not trying to be difficult, but a few luger books in your collection might help you; although old, Kenyon has many pictures, but also some inaccuracies; then Still's books, then Walters books and you can easily pick up Datig and then Jones for some older, outdated, but still lots of pertinenet info. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

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Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	The "1934/06" is just a designation indicating the year of manufacture/configuration. The 1934 Mauser Commercial fits this designation being a Mauser "banner" commercial with a 1906 style frame and grip safety. The Portuguese GNR could be considered a 1935/06. Keynyon's "Lugers at Random" is a book reference. Although outdated, it remains a primary reference. The Swiss, Bulgarian, German Navy, Dutch, US Test, Portuguese and Brazilian Lugers are military examples with a grip safety. The remainder of the grip safety models are by and large Commercial models and can be found on Model 1900, 1906, 1908, 1914, 1920 and 1930s-era Commercial Lugers. Whether the "Russian" Lugers are military or commercial is still part of the controversy! Early Model 1900 grip safeties extended only about half-way across the grip. According to data collected by Dwight Gruber, around serial number 10010 the grip safety was widened to the full width of the grip strap and remained that way througout the rest of Luger production. With the introduction of the Model 1929 Swiss, the grip safety was made into a "wrap-around" configuration that enclosed both sides of the grip strap and was significantly longer top to bottom than previous models. This type of wrap-arouind safety configuration was continued on the 1970s Mauser replicas. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction Last edited by Ron Wood; 12-07-2009 at 11:14 PM.

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Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Third Reich Lugers page 199 had a picture of a Portuguese GNR by Mauser in the 06/34 configuration with Mauser Banner toggle code. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Sorry, I have never seen a Mauser with a grip safety.

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Jasta2 User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lakeland, Fl. Posts: 514 Thanks: 349 Thanked 101 Times in 52 Posts	Thanks Ed & Ron. Yes there are a couple of Luger books on my Christmas list!! And yes, the 1934/06 Mauser is in the Kenyon book. I take they must be quite rare.