1935 all matching Luger

saxthorpe · 10-03-2009, 11:04 PM

I recently inherited a (?) 1935 Luger ("G" "S/42") that I believe has around 70-80% bluing, nice strawing, and a very clean barrel. Is not marked for caliber, but appears to be 9mm. All parts, incuding one of the two magazines, are matching. It also has a somewhat beat-up but intact hardshell holster in dark black/brown. I am just beginning my research, and as it belonged to my 81 year old brother I have no intention of selling it. But I am interested in an approximate value for adding to my firearms insurance and want to know if I am correct (from my novice research) that this pistol was made by the Mauser factory in 1935? There is a lower case "F" underneath the serial number (26xx) in two places.

Most of the proof marks don't appear to exactly match the examples I have found on-line thus far so I have more research to do...

Thank you in advance for any advice.

Edward Tinker · 10-04-2009, 12:08 AM

1935 equals G date.

pictures of the front of the frame and especially the proof and acceptance and we could tell you if correct.

welcome to the forum.

Ed

saxthorpe · 10-04-2009, 10:37 AM

Thank you. I will take some photographs, probably next weekend, and post again.
Bruce

saxthorpe · 10-05-2009, 09:37 PM

Here are my first efforts at photographing the Luger I inherited. I have not (and at the moment will not) attempt to field strip it or remove the grips to check interior numbers. However, my brother said that is was all matching inside and out. So assuming that it is all matching, what is a reasonable vaue to insure it?

alvin · 10-05-2009, 10:20 PM

Also curious on today's market price of G with one matching magzine rig...

2-3k? (I don't know. Ed knows)

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Looks like a 95%. Where did 70-80% come from.... where is the lost of finish? On grip?

DavidJayUden · 10-05-2009, 10:28 PM

I'm just a meat and potatoes guy, but this one looks very nice. Congrat's. Check Simpson Ltd. for like models for comparison. Depending on insurance premium rates how about $3K valuation? What it would bring in this rotton market doesn't seem relavant to the insurance question. Anyway a very nice Luger.
DJU

EricW · 10-06-2009, 01:40 AM

Nice G Date saxthorpe.
The "f" suffix below the serial number is part of the serial number and indicates which block (a,b,c,d,e,f...) of 10,000 the serial number belongs to. The Droop Eagle 63 (DE/63) stamps are correct for the f suffix. The Early Test Proof (ETP), I believe it's called, stamp to the right of the DE/63 stamps on the right receiver, and on the barrel (right), are also correct. On the barrel left should be DE/63 (as you also see on mag bottom). Now, I'm just learning as well, so I'm sure others will correct/confirm.
If that is a 1935 holster, it's rare and would be worth consulting with lugerhosterrepair (Jerry Berney?) about possible clean up. Photos of stamps on holster back and on tool are helpful too.
I know exactly how you feel about having no intentions of selling as I have my father's G Date... he passed away a few years ago and I still refer to it/consider it "his" gun.

saxthorpe · 10-06-2009, 08:05 AM

Thank you everyone for the comments and feedback.

Regarding the % finish, I was being very conservative and don't have any experience doing an "appraisal" of a gun's condition - so what you see on the photos is its true condition.

I know the holster came with the pistol, and my brother bought it sometime during the late 1950s or early 1960s. If getting the holster cleaned and repaired won't ruin its value (as it will for a pistol), then I would like to do it. My brother smoked cigars and the leather reeks of tobacco, which is why the holster is NOT inside my safe with my other firearms.

Thanks again!

RWS · 10-06-2009, 02:55 PM

Insure it 10K and tell me your address ;-)

saxthorpe · 10-06-2009, 05:19 PM

EricW - thanks for the referral to Jerry, he is going to "clean and lube" that old holster for me. Sounds like a very nice fellow, too!

Bruce

Lugerdoc · 10-07-2009, 10:15 AM

Bruce, The droop winged eagle over 63 proofs are correct for your F block G date. The finish appears to be exc original, but had to guage percentage from a flash photo. The flash also may bave obscured the number on the safety bar, which should be matching last 2 digit of serial. Nice PO8. TH

saxthorpe · 10-07-2009, 02:13 PM

Tom,

I have ordered some maco lenses for my Nikon digital camera system, and will dig my studio lighting out of the storage closet for taking some better photographs. The bluing is definitely original, the pistol has sat in its holster - unfred - in a drawer for at least 40-50 years. Yes, the safety bar also is numbered "18". Many thanks for the nice feedback!

10-03-2009, 11:04 PM	#1
saxthorpe User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1935 all matching Luger I recently inherited a (?) 1935 Luger ("G" "S/42") that I believe has around 70-80% bluing, nice strawing, and a very clean barrel. Is not marked for caliber, but appears to be 9mm. All parts, incuding one of the two magazines, are matching. It also has a somewhat beat-up but intact hardshell holster in dark black/brown. I am just beginning my research, and as it belonged to my 81 year old brother I have no intention of selling it. But I am interested in an approximate value for adding to my firearms insurance and want to know if I am correct (from my novice research) that this pistol was made by the Mauser factory in 1935? There is a lower case "F" underneath the serial number (26xx) in two places. Most of the proof marks don't appear to exactly match the examples I have found on-line thus far so I have more research to do... Thank you in advance for any advice.

10-05-2009, 09:37 PM	#4
saxthorpe User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Photographs of Luger Here are my first efforts at photographing the Luger I inherited. I have not (and at the moment will not) attempt to field strip it or remove the grips to check interior numbers. However, my brother said that is was all matching inside and out. So assuming that it is all matching, what is a reasonable vaue to insure it? Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

10-06-2009, 01:40 AM	#7
EricW User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: CA, USA Posts: 62 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Nice G Date saxthorpe. The "f" suffix below the serial number is part of the serial number and indicates which block (a,b,c,d,e,f...) of 10,000 the serial number belongs to. The Droop Eagle 63 (DE/63) stamps are correct for the f suffix. The Early Test Proof (ETP), I believe it's called, stamp to the right of the DE/63 stamps on the right receiver, and on the barrel (right), are also correct. On the barrel left should be DE/63 (as you also see on mag bottom). Now, I'm just learning as well, so I'm sure others will correct/confirm. If that is a 1935 holster, it's rare and would be worth consulting with lugerhosterrepair (Jerry Berney?) about possible clean up. Photos of stamps on holster back and on tool are helpful too. I know exactly how you feel about having no intentions of selling as I have my father's G Date... he passed away a few years ago and I still refer to it/consider it "his" gun. __________________ I'm looking for a D suffix DE154 G Date mag. The closer to #457d the better PM me if you have one you are willing to sell, trade, or if you have a lead Last edited by EricW; 10-06-2009 at 01:52 AM. Reason: typo

10-06-2009, 08:05 AM	#8
saxthorpe User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Many thanks! Thank you everyone for the comments and feedback. Regarding the % finish, I was being very conservative and don't have any experience doing an "appraisal" of a gun's condition - so what you see on the photos is its true condition. I know the holster came with the pistol, and my brother bought it sometime during the late 1950s or early 1960s. If getting the holster cleaned and repaired won't ruin its value (as it will for a pistol), then I would like to do it. My brother smoked cigars and the leather reeks of tobacco, which is why the holster is NOT inside my safe with my other firearms. Thanks again!

10-07-2009, 10:15 AM	#11
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Bruce, The droop winged eagle over 63 proofs are correct for your F block G date. The finish appears to be exc original, but had to guage percentage from a flash photo. The flash also may bave obscured the number on the safety bar, which should be matching last 2 digit of serial. Nice PO8. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

10-04-2009, 12:08 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	1935 equals G date. pictures of the front of the frame and especially the proof and acceptance and we could tell you if correct. welcome to the forum. Ed

10-04-2009, 10:37 AM	#3
saxthorpe User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you. I will take some photographs, probably next weekend, and post again. Bruce

10-05-2009, 10:20 PM	#5
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Also curious on today's market price of G with one matching magzine rig... 2-3k? (I don't know. Ed knows) ==== Looks like a 95%. Where did 70-80% come from.... where is the lost of finish? On grip?

10-05-2009, 10:28 PM	#6
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I'm just a meat and potatoes guy, but this one looks very nice. Congrat's. Check Simpson Ltd. for like models for comparison. Depending on insurance premium rates how about $3K valuation? What it would bring in this rotton market doesn't seem relavant to the insurance question. Anyway a very nice Luger. DJU

10-06-2009, 02:55 PM	#9
RWS User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 34 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Insure it 10K and tell me your address ;-)

10-06-2009, 05:19 PM	#10
saxthorpe User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	EricW - thanks for the referral to Jerry, he is going to "clean and lube" that old holster for me. Sounds like a very nice fellow, too! Bruce

10-07-2009, 02:13 PM	#12
saxthorpe User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tom, I have ordered some maco lenses for my Nikon digital camera system, and will dig my studio lighting out of the storage closet for taking some better photographs. The bluing is definitely original, the pistol has sat in its holster - unfred - in a drawer for at least 40-50 years. Yes, the safety bar also is numbered "18". Many thanks for the nice feedback!