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Mauser military code variations
Copyright 2009 Jan C. Still
Below is a summary of the Mauser Military Code Luger variations. A total of 52 variations are tabulated. The really obscure variations such as the shape of the dot in the P.08 are not included. If I have left something out let me know. I am very interested in how collectors regard these variations. Let me know which variations you find the most important/interesting (your favorites). Please list what in your opinion are the 20 most important Mauser Military Code Lugers and post the information here. The most important/interesting should be listed first. I have also included for your perusal, comments, and corrections a description of the magazine types that belong with each variation of Luger (confusing codes are not part of this description). This a continuation of the magazine descriptions on pages 125-126 and 171-172 of Third Reich Lugers. Table__. Mauser Army Magazine Bodies (see page 125 and 126 Third Reich Lugers for photographs of each magazine type.) Type 1: Nickel plated crimped (folded) body, aluminum base. K, G, 1936 Type 2: Blued crimped (folded) body, aluminum base. 1936, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1940 Type 3: Blued extruded body, concave center pin, E37 122 E37 (bottom to top order on left side of magazine), aluminum base. Some have E37 on base. 41-42 Type 4a: Blued extruded body, concave center pin, E37 fxo E37, aluminum base. P.08 upside down. 41 byf Type 4b: Blued extruded body, concave center pin, E37 fxo E37, aluminum base. P08 right side up. Almost all do not have serial number on base after u block . Type 4c: Blued extruded body, concave center pin, E37 fxo E37, black plastic base. The P.08 is right side up. Table _. Mauser Police Magazines. (see page 171 and 172 Third Reich Lugers for photographs of each magazine type.) Type 1 Police: extruded chrome plated; bottom cut on angle and pinned on end, coil spring and flat loading button, marked SCHMEISSER HAENEL on lower spine. Type 2 Police: extruded chrome plated; bottom cut on angle and pinned on end, coil spring and bordered loading button, marked HAENEL SCHMEISSER PATENT on right side. Type 3 Police: extruded chrome plated; bottom cut on angle and pinned on end, coil spring and bordered loading button, marked HAENEL SCHMEISSER PATENT E/L on right side. Type 4 Police: extruded blued center pinned, pin has convex (rounded) ends. Marked HAENEL SCHMEISSER PATENT on right side. K DATE- S/42 CODE RIGHT RECEIVER ACCEPTANCE STAMPS 037-037 ETP 037-B90 ETP B90-S91 ETP. 3 Variations S PARTS STAMP Subvariation 1. All (or almost all) scriptic S. Subvariation 2. Scriptic S in S/42 code and mixture of Scriptic S or Gothic S on parts. Subvariation 3. Scriptic S in S/42 code and all Gothic S on parts. Subvariation 4. Gothic S in code and without parts S. 4 Variations BARREL BAND Short barrel band Long barrel band 1 Variation REAR OF FRAME Production starts with the top of the rear frame thickened forming what collectors call a hump. Later the whole rear frame is thickened (Figure ). Hump in frame Mixed (hump and no hump) 1 Variation MAGAZINE: crimped nickel plated (Type 1). An H is located on the magazine spine up to about serial number 2500. The magazine acceptance stamp is located on the magazine base and most often corresponds with the right receiver acceptance stamps. 037 or B90 observed. The sequence of stamps on the magazine base is as follows: The serial number is located in the middle of the magazine base. An S part code is located above the serial number on earlier magazines. The a suffix (if present) is located below the serial number. A + indicating the extra magazine (if present) is located below the serial number and suffix. Last, the acceptance stamp is located below the serial number, suffix, and +. REICHSMARINE: bear an E/M(3) on the left frame and an 0. property number on their front strap 1 Variation Total 10 Variations G- S/42 RIGHT RECEIVER ACCEPTANCE STAMPS: (all small) B90-S91 ETP B90-S92 ETP W154-S92 ETP DE211-S92 ETP DE63-S92 ETP DE63- DE63 ETP 6 Variations MAGAZINE: nickel plated crimped (type 1) with the same acceptance stamps (approximate) as found on right receiver. B90, DE154, DE211, and DE63 observed. Order of markings on magazine base: serial number, letter suffix, + if present, and acceptance stamp. Sear safety police Lugers were mostly issued with type 1 police magazines (chrome plated extruded case) and are numbered 1, 2, or 3. Magazines for Navy Lugers are like Army magazines but have an N property number added at the top: N / property number (X if extra magazine). Those with 0 property number bear no additional markings KREIGSMARINE (KM): N property number & KM eagle; or 0 property number; 1 Variation SEAR SAFETY: (more common military code police Luger) 1Variation Total 8 Variations 1936- S/42 RIGHT RECEIVER ACCEPTANCE STAMPS DE63- DE63 ETP (both sm) DE63-DE63 MTP (both sm) 2 Variations MAGAZINE:. Crimped nickel (type 1) or blue tube (type 2)with the same DE63 acceptance stamp as found on right receiver. Mag change from crimped nickel tube to crimped blue tube happens in approximate the late m range. This is a gradual change with nickel plated crimped magazines being used until 1938. Order of markings on magazine base: serial number, letter suffix, + if present, and acceptance stamp. Sear safety police Lugers were mostly issued with with type 1 police magazines (chrome plated extruded case) and are numbered 1, 2, or 3. Sear safety police Lugers were mostly issued with type 1 police magazines (chrome plated extruded case) and are numbered 1, 2, or 3. Magazines for Navy Lugers are like Army magazines but have an N property number added at the top: N / property number (X if extra magazine). Those with 0 property number bear no additional markings KM: N or 0 property number; 1 Variation SEAR SAFETY 1 Variation Total 4 Variations 1937- S/42 RIGHT RECEIVER ACCEPTANCE STAMPS DE63- DE63 MTP (both sm) DE63- SE63 MTP (both sm) SE63-SE63 MTP 3 Variations MAGAZINE: A few crimped nickel mag bodies but mostly crimped blued (type 2). The change from droop wing E63 accepted mags to the stick wing E63 accepted mags occurs early in the r block. KM: N or 0 property number; 1 Variation SEAR SAFETY very very rare watch for fakes 1 Variation Strawed, rust blued and clean inside, to salt blued small parts and pins. No hump to hump 2 Variations Total 7 Variations 1938- S/42 RIGHT RECEIVER ACCEPTANCE STAMPS SE63- SE63 MTP (both sm) (Some SE83) SE83- SE63 MTP (both sm)(Mostly SE83) 2 Variations MAGAZINE: Crimped blued. (Type 2)(crimped nickel magazines rarely reported). On magazine bases SE63 until the i block, then SE83 interspersed with SE63 and finally almost all SE83 in the m block. Magazines for Navy Lugers are like Army magazines but have an N property number added at the top: N / property number (X if extra magazine). Those with 0 property number bear no additional markings KM: N or 0 property number (most common Nazi Era Navy Luger) 1 Variations Total 3 Variations 1939- S/42 RIGHT RECEIVER ACCEPTANCE STAMPS SE63- SE63 MTP. The SE63 ranges from small to large. (rare SE83) Not counted MAGAZINE: Crimped blued case (type 2). Magazine base: SE83 early, then SE63 medium. Sear safety police Lugers may have Army type 2 magazines as above or Police type 4 magazines. The police type 4 magazines were supplied by police armories and are marked 2 or 3. They do not bear the serial number suffix or + markings. SEAR SAFETY: more common military code police Luger CROATIAN: Not counted Total 2 Variations 1939 - 42 RIGHT RECEIVER ACCEPTANCE STAMPS SE63 (md)- SE63 (sm) LTP SE63(lg)- SE63(lg) LTP SE63- SE655 LTP SE655- SE655 LTP 3 Variations MAGAZINE: Crimped blued case (type 2) with the same acceptance stamp(SE63 or SE655) found on the right receiver. The SE63 ranges in size from medium to large. Matching blued extruded magazines are not reported. KM: N property number; rare watch for fakes. 1 Variation Total 4 Variations 1940 - 42 [SIZE="3"]RIGHT RECEIVER ACCEPTANCE STAMPS[/SIZE]: SE655-SE655 LTP GRIPS: wood, and brown plastic 2 Variations MAGAZINE: Both blued crimped (early) and blued extruded. The blued crimped magazine (type 2) bears the same acceptance stamps on its base (SE655) as found on the right receiver. The blued extruded magazine (type 3)has an improved zig zag spring, square cut bottom, and has a concave ended pin through the center of its base. These do not bear acceptance stamps on their aluminum bottom, except some of the early production which bears an E/37 on its base. These extruded magazines bear an SE37 122 SE37 on the left side of the magazine. The earlier production bears an E/37 / serial number / letter suffix on its base and the later production has only the serial number / letter suffix on its base. Magazines for Navy Lugers are like Army magazines but have an N property number added at the top: N / property number (X if extra magazine). Those with 0 property number bear no additional markings KM: N or 0 property number 1 Variation Total 3 Variations 41 - 42 RIGHT RECEIVER ACCEPTANCE STAMPS SE655-SE655 LTP MAGAZINE: almost all extruded blued, E37 122 E37 center pinned (Type 3); serial number with suffix on its base. E37 on base early. A few later, extruded blued E37 fxo E37, P08 upside down, center pinned, (Type 4a); serial number with suffix on its base. Total 1 Variations 41 - byf RIGHT RECEIVER ACCEPTANCE STAMPS SE655-SE655 LTP SE655-SE135 LTP SE135-SE135 LTP 3 Variations GRIPS: wood and black plastic 2 Variations MAGAZINE: Case extruded blued case center pinned concave. Marked E37 122 E37 serial number with suffix on its base (Type 3). Used to early p block. Marked E37 fxo E37, P08 upside down, serial number with suffix on its base (Type 4a); Used early p block to r block Marked E37 fxo E37, P08 right side up, (Type 4b) middle range s to x blocks, sn on bottom stopped at about u block (sn reported to the y block) Marked E37 fxo E37, P08 right side up, (Type 4c) black plastic base. Police: E37122 E37 (Army Type 3) bottom: number 1-3 / serial number / suffix. blued extruded center convex pinned side frame inscribed AHAENEL SCHMEISSER PATENT@ (Type 4 police) bottom: number 1-3 / serial number SEAR SAFETY, rare 1Variations Total 6 Variations 42 -byf Portuguese production Bulgarian production Not part of German military procurement, not counted RIGHT RECEIVER ACCEPTANCE STAMPS SE135-SE135 LTP GRIPS: wood and black plastic 2 Variations BARREL MARKS: test proof on the right barrel and acceptance stamp on the left barrel. Serial number (without suffix) and barrel gauge on bottom of barrel. Stamping of the barrel gauge ceased at between sn 3958d and 4069d 2 Variations SEAR SAFETY, (1 reported ) not counted MAGAZINE: Blued extruded center pinned concave. E37 fxo E37 and P.08 on its left side. The P08 may be right side up or up side down Aluminum or black bakelite magazine bottom. The black bakelite bottoms will have the P08 right side up. All magazine bottoms are unnumbered. Total 4 Variations GRAND TOTAL: 52 MAUSER MILITARY CODE LUGER VARIATIONS. |
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Could someone post a picture of this mag?
1939 - 42 RIGHT RECEIVER ACCEPTANCE STAMPS SE63 (md)- SE63 (sm) LTP SE63(lg)- SE63(lg) LTP SE63- SE655 LTP SE655- SE655 LTP 3 Variations MAGAZINE: Crimped blued case (type 2) with the same acceptance stamp(SE63 or SE655) found on the right receiver. The SE63 ranges in size from medium to large. Matching blued extruded magazines are not reported. KM: N property number; rare watch for fakes. 1 Variation Total 4 Variations |
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The link below shows such a magazine. Its bottom is stamped 3380 / w / + /SE63. Jan *42 code 1939 luger, sn3380w, and holsterhuggiebear http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...highlight=1939 |
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Jan- As a modest Luger collector I very much appreciate this summative compilation from MO. I have printed it off and placed in your Vol III book that I have. Kudos!
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