help with "Lk" markings, 1937 original Waa 145 P08 holster

lweinlan · 05-24-2008, 07:52 PM

Hello,

could someone please help me identify the meaning of the letters "Lk" that are stamped on an original WW2 P08 1937 Waa 145 holster ? Picture is attached. Thank you very much for your help.

lweinlan · 05-28-2008, 03:38 PM

Yeahhh...I am so happy...I have the toughest question on this message board..nobody is able to answer it...
Just joking...anyway thank all for your help.

Ron Wood · 05-28-2008, 03:57 PM

I have been looking through all my references that list odd markings and I can't find this one. Sorry.

laoshi75 · 05-28-2008, 04:00 PM

Hello Iweinlan,

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...my humble opinion: I believe this marking is not a maker's or an official stamp. The lines are too thin, not deep enough. It would be a private marking made by a soldier. is there any maker marking on your holster ?

lweinlan · 05-28-2008, 04:25 PM

Hello Laoshi75,

No there is no maker markings beside this "Lk". The "Lk" seems to be too perfect (made by a tool) to be a soldier marking....But I have no doubt that this holster is original WWII era.

laoshi75 · 05-28-2008, 04:36 PM

Iweinlan,

I have no doubt your holster is original ! but like Ron, I have never seen this kind of marking.

lweinlan · 05-28-2008, 04:43 PM

here is another image showing the depth of the marking

laoshi75 · 05-28-2008, 04:53 PM

the lines appear better on this photo, and I think this marking might be the ordnance code of the holster manufacturer. But I cannot identify it in my archives, sorry.

laoshi75 · 05-28-2008, 04:58 PM

...the "LK" might be a "LYO" (Kromolowski & Sohne") ?

lweinlan · 05-28-2008, 05:05 PM

could be ....but then it would probably be associated with a WaA 77 (the LYO code)? and did they already had the LYO abbreviation in 1937 ?

The info I have for WaA 145 is:

-Karl Barth, MilitÃ?Â¤reffektenfabrik, WaldbrÃ?Â¶l, Nordrhein-Westfalen : (1939)
-Deutsche LederwerkstÃ?Â¤tten GmbH, Margarethenstr. 3, Pirmasens, Rheinland-Pfalz (jln) : (P 08 holster : 1942-43)
-Lock und Hartenberger Metallwarenfabrik, Idar-Oberstein, Rheinland-Pfalz (gqm) : (MP 40 mag. : 1942)

Lugerdoc · 05-29-2008, 09:47 AM

I agree that the "LK" is in the correct position to be a maker code. Anyone have any info on the logo of Ludwig Krumm of Offenbock? TH

05-24-2008, 07:52 PM	#1
lweinlan User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	help with "Lk" markings, 1937 original Waa 145 P08 holster Hello, could someone please help me identify the meaning of the letters "Lk" that are stamped on an original WW2 P08 1937 Waa 145 holster ? Picture is attached. Thank you very much for your help.

05-28-2008, 03:57 PM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	I have been looking through all my references that list odd markings and I can't find this one. Sorry. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

05-28-2008, 04:00 PM	#4
laoshi75 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Thailand/France Posts: 490 Thanks: 288 Thanked 96 Times in 41 Posts	Hello Iweinlan, .....my humble opinion: I believe this marking is not a maker's or an official stamp. The lines are too thin, not deep enough. It would be a private marking made by a soldier. is there any maker marking on your holster ?

05-29-2008, 09:47 AM	#11
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	I agree that the "LK" is in the correct position to be a maker code. Anyone have any info on the logo of Ludwig Krumm of Offenbock? TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

05-28-2008, 03:38 PM	#2
lweinlan User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeahhh...I am so happy...I have the toughest question on this message board..nobody is able to answer it... Just joking...anyway thank all for your help.

05-28-2008, 04:25 PM	#5
lweinlan User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello Laoshi75, No there is no maker markings beside this "Lk". The "Lk" seems to be too perfect (made by a tool) to be a soldier marking....But I have no doubt that this holster is original WWII era.

05-28-2008, 04:36 PM	#6
laoshi75 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Thailand/France Posts: 490 Thanks: 288 Thanked 96 Times in 41 Posts	Iweinlan, I have no doubt your holster is original ! but like Ron, I have never seen this kind of marking.

05-28-2008, 04:43 PM	#7
lweinlan User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	here is another image showing the depth of the marking

05-28-2008, 04:53 PM	#8
laoshi75 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Thailand/France Posts: 490 Thanks: 288 Thanked 96 Times in 41 Posts	the lines appear better on this photo, and I think this marking might be the ordnance code of the holster manufacturer. But I cannot identify it in my archives, sorry.

05-28-2008, 04:58 PM	#9
laoshi75 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Thailand/France Posts: 490 Thanks: 288 Thanked 96 Times in 41 Posts	...the "LK" might be a "LYO" (Kromolowski & Sohne") ?

05-28-2008, 05:05 PM	#10
lweinlan User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	could be ....but then it would probably be associated with a WaA 77 (the LYO code)? and did they already had the LYO abbreviation in 1937 ? The info I have for WaA 145 is: -Karl Barth, MilitÃ?Â¤reffektenfabrik, WaldbrÃ?Â¶l, Nordrhein-Westfalen : (1939) -Deutsche LederwerkstÃ?Â¤tten GmbH, Margarethenstr. 3, Pirmasens, Rheinland-Pfalz (jln) : (P 08 holster : 1942-43) -Lock und Hartenberger Metallwarenfabrik, Idar-Oberstein, Rheinland-Pfalz (gqm) : (MP 40 mag. : 1942)