Proof Mark Removal

SS109 · 11-15-2007, 03:54 PM

I have a 7.65mm which looks to have at least two proofs removed from the barrel extension. The proof on the toggle also appears to have been buffed off.
The DWM & serial numbers are still there along with the Century barrel import mark.

Why were the proofs removed?

The serial numbers are 4433o. Due to the better sights, I think it is a commercial, but I can't find a good serial number source.

MFC · 11-15-2007, 11:15 PM

Many Weimar era commercials were reworks of Imperial military Lugers.
The o suffix fits into the alphabet commercial range, or it could be the original military serial # with the military proofs and chamber date removed for commercial sale.
Mike C.

Dwight Gruber · 11-16-2007, 04:07 AM

If the proofs were removed from the right receiver, it was definitely a military pistol to start out with.

--Dwight

SS109 · 11-20-2007, 02:31 PM

Thanks for the info. I wish they had kept the original info, but I can understand that they want to make it look new, plus why admit to re-selling goverment property.

11-15-2007, 03:54 PM	#1
SS109 User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Jefferson, CO Posts: 56 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Proof Mark Removal I have a 7.65mm which looks to have at least two proofs removed from the barrel extension. The proof on the toggle also appears to have been buffed off. The DWM & serial numbers are still there along with the Century barrel import mark. Why were the proofs removed? The serial numbers are 4433o. Due to the better sights, I think it is a commercial, but I can't find a good serial number source. __________________ 1916 LP08 1923 9mm P08 Commercial Import 1920 .30 Luger Commercial

11-15-2007, 11:15 PM	#2
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Many Weimar era commercials were reworks of Imperial military Lugers. The o suffix fits into the alphabet commercial range, or it could be the original military serial # with the military proofs and chamber date removed for commercial sale. Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

11-20-2007, 02:31 PM	#4
SS109 User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Jefferson, CO Posts: 56 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the info. I wish they had kept the original info, but I can understand that they want to make it look new, plus why admit to re-selling goverment property. __________________ 1916 LP08 1923 9mm P08 Commercial Import 1920 .30 Luger Commercial

11-16-2007, 04:07 AM	#3
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts	If the proofs were removed from the right receiver, it was definitely a military pistol to start out with. --Dwight