S/42 Matching Luger ???

deansova · 08-13-2007, 11:13 PM

Just picked up an all matching luger, that is the easy part the question is what did I buy. the togle is marked DWM, the piece infront of the togle on the left hand side has a turkey looking eagle or buterfly with 4 letters under it. On the barrel it has the serial number on the bottom side and the S/42 code between it and the reciever, the right hand side of the barrel has the eagle swastika firing proof. on the right hand side of the barrel extension is a eagle with the code GW3 under it, on left hand side of the barrel extension and the reciever are a crown over an N proof i beleive these are comercial proofs. all serial numbers are present on all parts and this piece just came from a vets son who brought it back from the war. any info feel free to e-mail or call Dean Sova (313)299-9533

Edward Tinker · 08-13-2007, 11:28 PM

dean, sounds like a mixmaster of parts.

couple of things; use the left tool bar, go the technical section and there is a form you can fill out and then feedback to us.

or

put lots of pictures up, close ups and full right and full left

ed

deansova · 08-13-2007, 11:34 PM

iv'e been collecting k98k's for years and know when things have been changed or restamped this thing is ALL MATCHING EVERY MAJOR PART IS NUMBERED the wear is quite even no reblue at all the only piece that does not have a matching number is the magazine.

Edward Tinker · 08-13-2007, 11:35 PM

might be true, but an S/42 is a nazi era marking, so it might have been refurbed and maybe not. As nazi era would not have a DWM toggle on it, nor would it have nazi proofs and acceptance markings

deansova · 08-14-2007, 12:01 AM

i have had a couple gew 98 mausers rearsenaled with nazi proofs but i thought the lugers they ground the proofs off of them

what is the eagle GW3 mark and what is the mark on the left hand side of the part in front of the togle looks like a bird or a butterfly wwith 4 letters under it

Lugerdoc · 08-14-2007, 10:34 AM

Dean, It would be helpful if you could make out the 4 letters on the left side of the breech block, but probably from a nazi depo rework or replacement part, as is the s/42 marking on the barrel. According to Costanzo's "WOL Proofmarks" your GW3 translates to Gewehr Waffenwerke Kornbusch & Co. who was doing luger reworks in 1934-35. TH

deansova · 08-14-2007, 10:42 AM

Just found another mark it is an eagle 63 or G3 on the top side of the barrel all the marks I see are simaler to the early Weimer marks. The more I look at this thing the better I like it. Even the inside of the grips are numbered to the gun. There is no letter code with the serial number just for digits. Also has a + on the front end of the front sight base.

08-13-2007, 11:13 PM	#1
deansova User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	S/42 Matching Luger ??? Just picked up an all matching luger, that is the easy part the question is what did I buy. the togle is marked DWM, the piece infront of the togle on the left hand side has a turkey looking eagle or buterfly with 4 letters under it. On the barrel it has the serial number on the bottom side and the S/42 code between it and the reciever, the right hand side of the barrel has the eagle swastika firing proof. on the right hand side of the barrel extension is a eagle with the code GW3 under it, on left hand side of the barrel extension and the reciever are a crown over an N proof i beleive these are comercial proofs. all serial numbers are present on all parts and this piece just came from a vets son who brought it back from the war. any info feel free to e-mail or call Dean Sova (313)299-9533

08-13-2007, 11:28 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	dean, sounds like a mixmaster of parts. couple of things; use the left tool bar, go the technical section and there is a form you can fill out and then feedback to us. or put lots of pictures up, close ups and full right and full left ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-13-2007, 11:34 PM	#3
deansova User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	no way iv'e been collecting k98k's for years and know when things have been changed or restamped this thing is ALL MATCHING EVERY MAJOR PART IS NUMBERED the wear is quite even no reblue at all the only piece that does not have a matching number is the magazine.

08-13-2007, 11:35 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	might be true, but an S/42 is a nazi era marking, so it might have been refurbed and maybe not. As nazi era would not have a DWM toggle on it, nor would it have nazi proofs and acceptance markings __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-14-2007, 10:34 AM	#6
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Dean, It would be helpful if you could make out the 4 letters on the left side of the breech block, but probably from a nazi depo rework or replacement part, as is the s/42 marking on the barrel. According to Costanzo's "WOL Proofmarks" your GW3 translates to Gewehr Waffenwerke Kornbusch & Co. who was doing luger reworks in 1934-35. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

08-14-2007, 12:01 AM	#5
deansova User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	i have had a couple gew 98 mausers rearsenaled with nazi proofs but i thought the lugers they ground the proofs off of them what is the eagle GW3 mark and what is the mark on the left hand side of the part in front of the togle looks like a bird or a butterfly wwith 4 letters under it

08-14-2007, 10:42 AM	#7
deansova User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Just found another mark it is an eagle 63 or G3 on the top side of the barrel all the marks I see are simaler to the early Weimer marks. The more I look at this thing the better I like it. Even the inside of the grips are numbered to the gun. There is no letter code with the serial number just for digits. Also has a + on the front end of the front sight base.