It snowed in Texas in April

[Hugh]

This picture of Bluebonnets blooming in snow was taken a week ago in southeast Texas just north of Livingston .

[lew1]

Very pretty.

[Steinar]

The climate seems to be out of balanse at the moment.. Can't remember to have such a warm winter before ..but it's a very nice picture Hugh!

[BogeyB]

Hugh,

Surly this a sign of the apocoylspe! where can I get a Gore '08 button?

Mike

[Pete Ebbink]

Hey Hugh,

Send your photo to Al Gore...might shut him up about "global warming"...

Imagine folks pay him big speaker-fees and others pay to sit in the audience to listen to that big bore...

[Steinar]

Nah.. Global warming also results in unusual cold weather, strong winds and generally messed up weather conditions.. not just 'warm weather'. I think Al Gore's work is important for the global environment at the moment.

[c3006]

Steinar
I respect your opinion but all I can say is you dont know Al like I do.

[Jack Lawman]

Originally posted by c3006
Steinar
I respect your opinion but all I can say is you dont know Al like I do.

Leave Al alone for Pete's sake! You yammer away on his invention day in and day out. Show some appreciation for the "Father of the Internet". If poor Al could have known the extent of "gun talk" sullying his wires, he never would have bothered!

Jack

[Ron Wood]

You may not like Al Gore for his politics, but on global warming he is a voice in the wilderness. I am a staunch Republican, but on this issue I would cover his 6.

[lugerholsterrepair]

While in College I took a class from an ultra liberal proffesor called Spaceship earth. He likened Earth to a spaceship we are all traveling on. Those in the top compartment had most of the supplies, air food water, where it is temperature controlled etc. But there are limited resources, That's US. Those in the compartments below have less and less, down to the bottom, hotter and hungrier. Those at the top are using supplies at a fantastic rate and polluting the air and water. Those below suffer. Those below them suffer more. ethicaly, how do we justify staying in the top compartment with everything, knowing those in other compartments are suffering terribly? Do we share? Do we conserve? Or do we lock the compartment door and anyone on our side is welcome to consume at any rate they desire? untill it's all used up?
While the Earth we all travel on is somewhat larger than our hypothetical spaceship, it is much the same. We are compartmentalized. We lock and guard the door. We consume as much as we are allowed.
Our earthly spaceship is a closed system and perhaps not us but those who come after will pay dearly for our mismanagement sooner or later.
Believe in Global warming or not but we are affecting our Planet. Pink mold will continue to grow since we will not restrict ourselves voluntarily. I think the main question is this..Are you willing to be the first to give up that extra TV or two? The extra car? Drive less? Take out the lawn and replace it with gravel to conserve water and fuel to mow it? Have one less child? Eat less? Give up the power boat or motorcycle? Remember, you do this for those in other compartments...You take a lot less so they can have a little more...US citizens are the most prolific consumers on the Planet..10 times more than most 3rd World countries.
China and India want to emulate our prosperity. The only way they could consume that much is to take it from us. Economic wars are in our future.
The economies of the World will continue as they are, there is no stopping global warming. It will be like a speeding freight train. It's going through the crossing even if you put on all the brakes.
Might as well party as if there's no tomorrow!
Jerry Burney

[pipeman45]

Please don't start on man made global warming. I don't buy it.
That the earth is getting warmer. Sure, has been since the last ice age ended. That man has much to do with it, I don't think so.
There was a special on the BBC awhile back on this subject that is worth a look.

[Pete Ebbink]

Okay...I will back off on my criticisms of Gore...

But if this article, below, is true...the Global Warming cause may have picked a "more green" spokesman...

http://www.portcityunderground.com/p...try.php?id=503

BTW...if I remember my college astonomy and geology classes...other things could be in play affecting our global weather patterns...

But they just do not have the political-clout to command research grants, funding, Liberal news coverage, and those big speaking fees in the $ 50K to $ 100K per speech level...

Some of those are :

1. Normal ice age cycles that run in geological cycles of 100K's of years between cycles.

2. The 11 year or 22 year cycles of solar flare activities and climatic cycle affects.

3. The reversal of the Earth's magnetic poles which also happens in geological-time cycles.

4. The "processional" rotation of the Earth's polar axis tilt...(sort of like how a child's spinning top wobbles along its axis in a large circular path while the top continues to spin). The processional wobble of the Earth along its polar axis is around 23,000 years to make a complete circular rotation.

Enough of my digression from lugers...

Hugh's photo was a beauty...

[Hugh]

Scientists have determined that cow farts contribute more methane gas to the environment than all human activity combined. So kill all the cows and stop global warming.

[pipeman45]

Good to watch if you want some more facts on the subject.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+duration:long
Warning.This video is about 1 hour long.

[trigger643]

somewhere or other I have a Time magazine from the 1980's speaking on the coming of the next ice age for the similiar reasons as our current global warming debate. For living on a dynamic and ever changing planet, we sure seem to spend a lot of time and money wondering why it won't stay the same.

[HerbZ]

Didn't get my PhD, so I don't feel quite right jumping in here with both feet. Besides, though I taught Physical Geography (which deals extensively with weather & climate) as a graduate assistant when working on my masters (for only one year, the other year I was the cartography graduate assistant, sort of a glorified drafting instructor), I'm really a regionalist who specialized in two countries in central Europe that have long since gone out of existence (one having become once again part of one country, the other having split into two). But I'll venture that I know a bit more about weather and climate than most other members of this forum.

Global Warming is a fact. You may not like it, neither do I. You may despise the left wing politicians who are exploiting this issue for their own political advantage, so do I. But that don't change what is a well proven scientific fact. We can debate various aspects and quibble about the proportionality of blame for it, but none of this changes the fact that it's here.

[Jack Lawman]

Originally posted by HerbZ
Global Warming is a fact.

Herb,
The bears are their own worst enemy. Did they teach you about this in that fancy school of yours?:



Jack

[HerbZ]

Jack Lawman,

My school weren't all that fancy. They eventually condemned and tore down the the old Earth Science building there. Faculty, staff and students had to keep their tetanus shots up to date because there was so much rusty wrought iron all over the place. It was always too cold in the winter and too hot most of the rest of the year because many of the windows weren't made to open and the others were rusted shut. There was a horrible stink in one of the basement storage rooms. Rumor had it that it was what was left of one of Morgan's raiders who'd taken refuged there and died (and maybe with his horse too).

P.S. Those polar bears remind me of some Hoosier friends I know. They can make a fire, but don't know how to properly dress their game.

Morgan's Raiders

[davidkachel]

I like Al Gore. Strange coming from a staunch conservative, I know. I think he is sincere on the subject of global warming, but I also know that back in the late 50's or early 60's the scare was global cooling!
I'm not convinced, though won't go so far as to trash what he has to say either.
I do know from my travels in other countries (3rd World mostly) that there is a complete and utter disregard for the environment on a scale most people cannot imagine. In the US we are doing probably most of what we can at the moment, but when billions of people in other countries do absolutely nothing, our efforts don't amount to a spit in the bucket.
I refuse however to accept the idea that a problem exists because there is more than one TV in my house or two cars in my garage (actually I can't get either car into my garage, but that's another story). Americans "doing without" will not alter the plight of people in poor countries or significantly reduce environmental damage. It is far more complex than that.
Most countries that are poor are poor because their governments are oppressive. The more controlling a government is over commerce and liberty in general, the poorer the populace.

[pipeman45]

I for one am not arguing that the earth is getting warmer. It is. But did you know it has been warmer than today in the recent past? The end of the Dark ages was warmer, and during Roman rule of Europe it was warmer.
Again this is worth a look. It's all about money and power.
One of the founders of Green Peace split with the group over global warming. His words not mine: Junk science.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...g+duration:long