First holster

Parabellus · 08-02-2006, 09:16 PM

Hi guys (and gals).

Here is the holster I got shortly after my first Luger. It was in a small pile of like but poorer condition holsters. As you can see it had been coverted, as had the others, to hang on a US Army web belt. I have no such belt since I rotated from Viet Nam, but it fit my budget. I never liked the system anyway and hanging it on a police belt is a pain. The oil spot is mine from leaving the luger, freshly (over)oiled, in the holster.

Now the question. Is this worth coverting back to belt-loops? If it is, then Jerry is surly the man I want to do it. It could use a new buckle as well.

Would you rescue this leather?

Russell

lugerholsterrepair · 08-02-2006, 11:29 PM

Russell, I don't know if I can answer your question but perhaps I can help you arrive at one.
These Norwegian GI belt conversions are relatively common. Some people actually collect some as an example of a historical conversion.
Most people who care to, convert them back to their original configuration of two belt loops.
If you are considering this, it all depends on your collecting preferences and finances. The conversion can be done correctly, just as the Germans would have with the correct linen thread and nicely made belt loops. Installed they look very good with one exception. The holes where the rivets must be drilled out have to be plugged. These plugged holes will always be evident. There is no real way to make them disappear completely. This ruins the holster for most collectors. They would rather not see these holes plugged. The conversion will likely just cover the expense of the new belt loops leaving the holster only slightly more valuble than if it were not converted. I charge $50.00 for the job. So, I leave the decision up to the individual collector. I do quite a few of these over the course of any one year. Each person has to decide if this is the way they want to go...Hope this helps.
Jerry Burney

Parabellus · 08-02-2006, 11:47 PM

Thank you Jerry.

The price is right. Now to decide whether to do it. Knowing that there may actually be some collector value in this type may make me change my mind.

Norwegian? Does that mean the original conversion is done in Norway or that the style was developed in Norway?

Russell

Edward Tinker · 08-03-2006, 07:33 AM

after ww2 the norweigians took the captured guns and holsters and converted german ones. I believe they should have a collector value, as they are. However, five years ago you couldn't give these away, so some dealers bought scores of them. In the big picture, there are probably (or originally were) 5-8 thousand of these floating around, a small number... compared to the original style ones made in the millions...

they have gone up in price on ebay, I think because they have been converted folks think they are collectable. to many collectors, once modified back to original, most of the collector value is gone... but that is an individual choice.

if you look around long enough, you can pick up ratty original ones for cheap and nicer ones for a lot to a lot more...

ed

Aaron · 08-03-2006, 03:35 PM

As recently as eight months ago I saw a large quantity of these converted holsters selling for $25 at a gun show, with very few takers.

lugerholsterrepair · 08-03-2006, 04:28 PM

Aaron, If you ever see any more at that price give me a call! Jerry Burney

08-02-2006, 09:16 PM	#1
Parabellus User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: SF Bay Posts: 195 Thanks: 16 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts	First holster Hi guys (and gals). Here is the holster I got shortly after my first Luger. It was in a small pile of like but poorer condition holsters. As you can see it had been coverted, as had the others, to hang on a US Army web belt. I have no such belt since I rotated from Viet Nam, but it fit my budget. I never liked the system anyway and hanging it on a police belt is a pain. The oil spot is mine from leaving the luger, freshly (over)oiled, in the holster. Now the question. Is this worth coverting back to belt-loops? If it is, then Jerry is surly the man I want to do it. It could use a new buckle as well. Would you rescue this leather? Russell __________________

08-02-2006, 11:29 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,865 Thanked 3,104 Times in 1,429 Posts	Russell, I don't know if I can answer your question but perhaps I can help you arrive at one. These Norwegian GI belt conversions are relatively common. Some people actually collect some as an example of a historical conversion. Most people who care to, convert them back to their original configuration of two belt loops. If you are considering this, it all depends on your collecting preferences and finances. The conversion can be done correctly, just as the Germans would have with the correct linen thread and nicely made belt loops. Installed they look very good with one exception. The holes where the rivets must be drilled out have to be plugged. These plugged holes will always be evident. There is no real way to make them disappear completely. This ruins the holster for most collectors. They would rather not see these holes plugged. The conversion will likely just cover the expense of the new belt loops leaving the holster only slightly more valuble than if it were not converted. I charge $50.00 for the job. So, I leave the decision up to the individual collector. I do quite a few of these over the course of any one year. Each person has to decide if this is the way they want to go...Hope this helps. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-02-2006, 11:47 PM	#3
Parabellus User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: SF Bay Posts: 195 Thanks: 16 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts	Thank you Jerry. The price is right. Now to decide whether to do it. Knowing that there may actually be some collector value in this type may make me change my mind. Norwegian? Does that mean the original conversion is done in Norway or that the style was developed in Norway? Russell __________________

08-03-2006, 07:33 AM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	after ww2 the norweigians took the captured guns and holsters and converted german ones. I believe they should have a collector value, as they are. However, five years ago you couldn't give these away, so some dealers bought scores of them. In the big picture, there are probably (or originally were) 5-8 thousand of these floating around, a small number... compared to the original style ones made in the millions... they have gone up in price on ebay, I think because they have been converted folks think they are collectable. to many collectors, once modified back to original, most of the collector value is gone... but that is an individual choice. if you look around long enough, you can pick up ratty original ones for cheap and nicer ones for a lot to a lot more... ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-03-2006, 04:28 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,865 Thanked 3,104 Times in 1,429 Posts	Aaron, If you ever see any more at that price give me a call! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-03-2006, 03:35 PM	#5
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	As recently as eight months ago I saw a large quantity of these converted holsters selling for $25 at a gun show, with very few takers.