Eyechart Luger Frame...

Pete Ebbink · 02-14-2006, 11:14 PM

Frame on auction that might be a nice start of a unit-marked home project, luger gun...

Unit markings kind of look like an eye chart that got away from someone...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=43900091

drbuster · 02-14-2006, 11:25 PM

Very clever "take", Pete. The latter six letters and numbers appear to be a larger font than the former. I guess some armorer neglected to "x" out the first series of letters and numbers.

Pete Ebbink · 02-14-2006, 11:30 PM

Anyone care to translate the markings...?

Ron Smith · 02-15-2006, 10:25 AM

1st Machinegun Kompany. Infantry Regiment 344. weapon #37

Not marked to regulation, but could be authentic.

The trigger guard is bent. Would probably be a pain to make it right again.

George Anderson · 02-15-2006, 12:46 PM

Ron, this is what I read..."1.M.C.K.J.R.344.N.37." Am I wrong, is the second letter a "G"? What is the "N"?

Ron Wood · 02-15-2006, 01:38 PM

George,
I had the same question. Could it be that since this is a non-standard marking, the armorer used "N." instead of "No." to indicate "number"? Really a bizarre marking but as the "other Ron" indicated, it could be authentic.

Ron,
Actually, a bent trigger guard isn't all that difficult to fix with a little bit of patience and a light hand on the non-marring hammer.

Ron Smith · 02-15-2006, 05:42 PM

Geo, I think that the C is a mis-struck G. I could be wrong.

The "N" is, I believe a substitute for "Nr." which was used in some earlier markings as "number". I am taking a best guess here, considering that the entire marking is not to regulation.

If anyone has a better idea, I am open to correction.

Ron,
I know it wouldn't be too difficult, if done very skillfully to keep the arc of the guard correct. If you didn't do it carefully. You could spend a lot of time whacking it back and forth. And end up with waves in it.
Or even cracking it.

Ron

Pete Ebbink · 02-16-2006, 12:11 PM

Ron S.,

How about a properly sized/tapered wooden dowel that is driven (with hammer taps...) into the trigger guard from opposing sides, back and forth, until the proper curvature is re-established...?

Ron Wood · 02-16-2006, 12:55 PM

An appropriate support inside the trigger guard is all that is required when tapping it back into shape. A piece of black iron pipe works well. Clamp one end in a vise and use the pipe as an anvil. Kind of like "hammer and dolly" body work.

Jan C Still · 02-16-2006, 01:07 PM

Agree with Ron Smith on unit ID.
Jan

Green57 · 02-16-2006, 02:48 PM

Soooo, who's gonna buy it and take on the task? Would it be to much to ask for a step by step photo log of the progress, and parts price log?

Green57

jamese · 02-17-2006, 06:47 AM

I think for $149. its going to sit unsold
I'd give the guy $50

Jim

02-14-2006, 11:14 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Eyechart Luger Frame... Frame on auction that might be a nice start of a unit-marked home project, luger gun... Unit markings kind of look like an eye chart that got away from someone... http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=43900091

02-15-2006, 10:25 AM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	1st Machinegun Kompany. Infantry Regiment 344. weapon #37 Not marked to regulation, but could be authentic. The trigger guard is bent. Would probably be a pain to make it right again. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

02-15-2006, 01:38 PM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,241 Times in 1,719 Posts	George, I had the same question. Could it be that since this is a non-standard marking, the armorer used "N." instead of "No." to indicate "number"? Really a bizarre marking but as the "other Ron" indicated, it could be authentic. Ron, Actually, a bent trigger guard isn't all that difficult to fix with a little bit of patience and a light hand on the non-marring hammer. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-15-2006, 05:42 PM	#7
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Geo, I think that the C is a mis-struck G. I could be wrong. The "N" is, I believe a substitute for "Nr." which was used in some earlier markings as "number". I am taking a best guess here, considering that the entire marking is not to regulation. If anyone has a better idea, I am open to correction. Ron, I know it wouldn't be too difficult, if done very skillfully to keep the arc of the guard correct. If you didn't do it carefully. You could spend a lot of time whacking it back and forth. And end up with waves in it. Or even cracking it. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

02-16-2006, 12:55 PM	#9
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,241 Times in 1,719 Posts	An appropriate support inside the trigger guard is all that is required when tapping it back into shape. A piece of black iron pipe works well. Clamp one end in a vise and use the pipe as an anvil. Kind of like "hammer and dolly" body work. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-14-2006, 11:25 PM	#2
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Very clever "take", Pete. The latter six letters and numbers appear to be a larger font than the former. I guess some armorer neglected to "x" out the first series of letters and numbers.

02-14-2006, 11:30 PM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Anyone care to translate the markings...?

02-15-2006, 12:46 PM	#5
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	Ron, this is what I read..."1.M.C.K.J.R.344.N.37." Am I wrong, is the second letter a "G"? What is the "N"?

02-16-2006, 12:11 PM	#8
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Ron S., How about a properly sized/tapered wooden dowel that is driven (with hammer taps...) into the trigger guard from opposing sides, back and forth, until the proper curvature is re-established...?

02-16-2006, 01:07 PM	#10
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Agree with Ron Smith on unit ID. Jan

02-16-2006, 02:48 PM	#11
Green57 User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Soooo, who's gonna buy it and take on the task? Would it be to much to ask for a step by step photo log of the progress, and parts price log? Green57

02-17-2006, 06:47 AM	#12
jamese User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 792 Thanks: 0 Thanked 86 Times in 36 Posts	I think for $149. its going to sit unsold I'd give the guy $50 Jim __________________ The "truth" is a matter of Perception