Artillery & Wolff springs

Stu · 02-09-2006, 07:14 PM

Ok, so my artillery shooter is almost ready for the range. I've the Wolff Luger calibration pack in one hand, (band aids & iodine in the other), any suggestions as to which spring weight to start with ?

I'll be using the WalMart Winchester 9mm.

I must confess I don't want to change the springs out more than I have too, having read through Ted's excellent tutorial. Images of blood and bent metal flash before my eyes each time I contemplate the task.

My thoughts so far are.. the extra weight spring may be to much, based on the idea that the artillery upper weighs more than the standard so will not travel quite as fast, (although it will still have the same momentum... hum).

The standard is a tempting starting point.

Has anyone been down the same path and could recount their experiences ?

Many thanks, Stu

Sieger · 02-09-2006, 09:27 PM

Hi:

If you lived near me, I'd show you how to exchange those springs in no more than just a few minutes. With a small fixture I fabricated myself, I've taken all of the blood, sweat, toil and tears out of the process.

Unless you are going to be using hot ammo, start with the lightest spring in the pack.

My LP-08, a 1916 DWM in almost new condition, shoots relatively hot ammo with its original 90 year old spring. That longer 300mm barrel is really quite heavy and takes quite a bit more zip to recoil adequately than the standard loads I've developed for my 100mm barrel Lugers develop.

For me, the Wolff Springs are just too darned long!!! What this is doing to the spring prelaod, I can only imagine.

I hope your LP-08 has fully adjustable sights, as they will be necessary to fine tune the point of aim for the specific ammo you are using.

Seiger

Ponyman · 02-10-2006, 11:18 AM

Seiger, could you post some photos of your fixture?

Or are you in the process of applying for a patent? (:-)

Stu · 02-11-2006, 09:29 AM

Thanks Sieger.

It does have fine tune front & rear, (front inoperable though, need a screw).

I'm planning on banging an appropriate sized nail into the workbench and cutting the head off so I can slide the spring keeper down onto it.

Hopefully this will keep things steady and allow two hands on the frame !

Stu

jamese · 02-12-2006, 07:00 AM

Sieger,

can you post pics of your fixture or e-mail them to me.
I made a spring compresser from an old hose clamp pliers, but would like to tweek it a little.

thanks,

Jim

Vlim · 02-12-2006, 07:19 AM

Interesting,

I placed a pair of pliers on the bench, used it as a support for a repro loading tool. Placed the spring upright above the loading tool (diameter of tool hole and spring was roughly the same, perfect). Slid a small screwdriver through the hole in the hook en pressed the hook down through the spring and the loading tool hole with two hands. Afterwards, it was just a matter of detaching the loading tool again.

02-09-2006, 07:14 PM	#1
Stu User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 451 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 16 Posts	Artillery & Wolff springs Ok, so my artillery shooter is almost ready for the range. I've the Wolff Luger calibration pack in one hand, (band aids & iodine in the other), any suggestions as to which spring weight to start with ? I'll be using the WalMart Winchester 9mm. I must confess I don't want to change the springs out more than I have too, having read through Ted's excellent tutorial. Images of blood and bent metal flash before my eyes each time I contemplate the task. My thoughts so far are.. the extra weight spring may be to much, based on the idea that the artillery upper weighs more than the standard so will not travel quite as fast, (although it will still have the same momentum... hum). The standard is a tempting starting point. Has anyone been down the same path and could recount their experiences ? Many thanks, Stu

02-09-2006, 09:27 PM	#2
Sieger User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 2,124 Thanked 400 Times in 249 Posts	Wolf Springs in Lange P-08 Hi: If you lived near me, I'd show you how to exchange those springs in no more than just a few minutes. With a small fixture I fabricated myself, I've taken all of the blood, sweat, toil and tears out of the process. Unless you are going to be using hot ammo, start with the lightest spring in the pack. My LP-08, a 1916 DWM in almost new condition, shoots relatively hot ammo with its original 90 year old spring. That longer 300mm barrel is really quite heavy and takes quite a bit more zip to recoil adequately than the standard loads I've developed for my 100mm barrel Lugers develop. For me, the Wolff Springs are just too darned long!!! What this is doing to the spring prelaod, I can only imagine. I hope your LP-08 has fully adjustable sights, as they will be necessary to fine tune the point of aim for the specific ammo you are using. Seiger

02-10-2006, 11:18 AM	#3
Ponyman User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Atlantic County, NJ, USA Posts: 138 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Seiger, could you post some photos of your fixture? Or are you in the process of applying for a patent? (:-) __________________ "The Constitution is intended for use by a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the governance of any other." ~ John Quincy Adams

02-12-2006, 07:00 AM	#5
jamese User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 789 Thanks: 0 Thanked 84 Times in 34 Posts	Sieger, can you post pics of your fixture or e-mail them to me. I made a spring compresser from an old hose clamp pliers, but would like to tweek it a little. thanks, Jim __________________ The "truth" is a matter of Perception

02-11-2006, 09:29 AM	#4
Stu User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 451 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 16 Posts	Thanks Sieger. It does have fine tune front & rear, (front inoperable though, need a screw). I'm planning on banging an appropriate sized nail into the workbench and cutting the head off so I can slide the spring keeper down onto it. Hopefully this will keep things steady and allow two hands on the frame ! Stu

02-12-2006, 07:19 AM	#6
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,049 Thanks: 1,035 Thanked 3,957 Times in 1,200 Posts	Interesting, I placed a pair of pliers on the bench, used it as a support for a repro loading tool. Placed the spring upright above the loading tool (diameter of tool hole and spring was roughly the same, perfect). Slid a small screwdriver through the hole in the hook en pressed the hook down through the spring and the loading tool hole with two hands. Afterwards, it was just a matter of detaching the loading tool again.