Leo's Navy Lugers with Unit Markings

John Sabato · 12-22-2003, 03:34 PM

Check out this photo of Navy Lugers in the collection of Luger11 (Leo). The photo was too large for Leo to post so he sent it to me to post for him... click on the image to see it full size.

<a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/navy_unit_markings_leo1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/navy_unit_markings_leo1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a>

simoon · 12-22-2003, 08:44 PM

Some people have all the luck! Or at least all the Lugers!!

Navy · 12-22-2003, 09:23 PM

All,

Leo is a dear personal friend and a member of the "Cabal of 3" who are working very hard to corner all Imperial and Weimar Navy pieces that are extant. So far we ain't doing too badly.

I actively support and assist in this endeavor by an occasional shipment of Jefferson Reserve to fellow cabalists. (Take that, spell checker!)

Leo, as a member of the cabal, gets first dibs on lots of stuff; in return, fellow cabalistas, get first dibs on anything he wishes to move.

CABAL IRON CLAD RULE: You sell the piece to a cabalista for what you paid for it. No equivications, "cost of money" etc, etc. We are collectors and do not wish to make a profit from our hobby.

Naive? Perhaps, but the cabal will be doing the keynote at Chattanooga this year with a real "petting zoo" of navies that we own ourselves.

We will display and allow hands on for almost every Navy made, from 1904 through the Commerative by Mauser. Additionally, we will have accessories and accoutrements as well as documentation.

We in the Cabal work hard and spend a few bucks to preserve history; hope you enjoy it.

Tom A.

ToggleTop · 12-22-2003, 10:14 PM

Mr. Armstrong,

I hope you are talking about the NAPCA show in Chattanoogi next year because if you are I will be there to drool over them loogers. From your interpretive writing I was not sur exactly if that was what you were talking about or not but I hope you were talking about what I thought you were talking about because if you were that is a good thing and good things are hard to find these days. I could go on, but all kidding aside I do hope your are in Chatt. for the show.

Season's Greeting and Happy Holidays,
I think this is politically correct.

Navy · 12-22-2003, 11:08 PM

Mr. Toggle Top,
If I understanded what you be sayin', to wit:

"I was not sur exactly if that was what you were talking about or not but I hope you were talking about what I thought you were talking about because if you were that is a good thing"

Den' we are in complete aggreasesement.

And yes, you can see and touch the stuff that the Cabal has found in Chattanooger. If you got any of that evil, wicked and nasty Kaiser Bill stuff or, ptooie,(italics assumed) I spit at the name, any of that stuff from Herr Schickelgruber's time, well, if it is Navy, I am interested. You got it for sale, I am interested. If I don't like it, a Cabalista probably will.

Tom A.

ToggleTop · 12-22-2003, 11:31 PM

Tom A.

As Arnold S. says, I be thar.

Frank H · 12-25-2003, 08:14 PM

I have heard that this is a "Must go to event"--does anyone know the dates and place?
Happy Holidays to all-its been a fun first year for me in the Luger Forum! Thanks to everyone for their coments.

Frank H · 12-27-2003, 10:31 AM

Never mind-I found my answer after a little more finger tapping.

karmast · 12-29-2003, 03:53 PM

Now I know where all the Navys are..

Fantastic! But I have a question:

The "I.S.B." - Marking looks a little big in my eyes.. is it a 1904, a 1906 or a 1916/17 variant?
Shouldn`t it has a number under the "I.S.B."?

luger11 · 12-29-2003, 08:36 PM

Hi and thanks for your interest. In answer to your question The I.S.B. mark is proper and not all guns that were unit marked were issued a property number. technically it is a 1904 but in collector terms it is classified as an 1906.And to your statement now you know where "all" the Navys are you are incorrect this is seven of the 20 navys I own and between T.A, D.S and myself we have over 60 navys in our combined collection.

karmast · 12-30-2003, 01:10 PM

thank you for your answer. I am really looking forward to see more pics like the one here in this thread.

Congrats!!!

Navy · 12-30-2003, 04:20 PM

Karmast,

Spend a load of Euros and come to Chattanooger this summer and you can see and fondle Navy Loogers as well as all of their accessories and ancillary equipment, such as M1911 Boarding Cutlasses.

Tom A.

karmast · 01-01-2004, 06:31 PM

@Tom A: Thank you very much, that really sounds great, though it will not happen this year due to private reasons..
but I would really enjoy the visit there. It must be a great experience!! Maybe it will be better next year? is it a meeting once in the year?

Navy · 01-01-2004, 07:58 PM

Hi again Karmast,

The Chattanooga show is an annual NAPCA event.

Tom A

karmast · 01-03-2004, 12:31 PM

Thank you, Tom A!!

12-22-2003, 03:34 PM	#1
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Leo's Navy Lugers with Unit Markings Check out this photo of Navy Lugers in the collection of Luger11 (Leo). The photo was too large for Leo to post so he sent it to me to post for him... click on the image to see it full size. <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/navy_unit_markings_leo1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/navy_unit_markings_leo1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

12-22-2003, 08:44 PM	#2
simoon User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Some people have all the luck! Or at least all the Lugers!! __________________ Good judgement comes from experience... experience comes from bad judgement.

12-22-2003, 10:14 PM	#4
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mr. Armstrong, I hope you are talking about the NAPCA show in Chattanoogi next year because if you are I will be there to drool over them loogers. From your interpretive writing I was not sur exactly if that was what you were talking about or not but I hope you were talking about what I thought you were talking about because if you were that is a good thing and good things are hard to find these days. I could go on, but all kidding aside I do hope your are in Chatt. for the show. Season's Greeting and Happy Holidays, I think this is politically correct. __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************

12-22-2003, 11:31 PM	#6
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tom A. As Arnold S. says, I be thar. __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************

12-29-2003, 03:53 PM	#9
karmast User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Now I know where all the Navys are.. Fantastic! But I have a question: The "I.S.B." - Marking looks a little big in my eyes.. is it a 1904, a 1906 or a 1916/17 variant? Shouldn`t it has a number under the "I.S.B."? __________________ Every Luger tells a story - but you have to find out what it says..

12-22-2003, 09:23 PM	#3
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	All, Leo is a dear personal friend and a member of the "Cabal of 3" who are working very hard to corner all Imperial and Weimar Navy pieces that are extant. So far we ain't doing too badly. I actively support and assist in this endeavor by an occasional shipment of Jefferson Reserve to fellow cabalists. (Take that, spell checker!) Leo, as a member of the cabal, gets first dibs on lots of stuff; in return, fellow cabalistas, get first dibs on anything he wishes to move. CABAL IRON CLAD RULE: You sell the piece to a cabalista for what you paid for it. No equivications, "cost of money" etc, etc. We are collectors and do not wish to make a profit from our hobby. Naive? Perhaps, but the cabal will be doing the keynote at Chattanooga this year with a real "petting zoo" of navies that we own ourselves. We will display and allow hands on for almost every Navy made, from 1904 through the Commerative by Mauser. Additionally, we will have accessories and accoutrements as well as documentation. We in the Cabal work hard and spend a few bucks to preserve history; hope you enjoy it. Tom A.

12-22-2003, 11:08 PM	#5
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Mr. Toggle Top, If I understanded what you be sayin', to wit: "I was not sur exactly if that was what you were talking about or not but I hope you were talking about what I thought you were talking about because if you were that is a good thing" Den' we are in complete aggreasesement. And yes, you can see and touch the stuff that the Cabal has found in Chattanooger. If you got any of that evil, wicked and nasty Kaiser Bill stuff or, ptooie,(italics assumed) I spit at the name, any of that stuff from Herr Schickelgruber's time, well, if it is Navy, I am interested. You got it for sale, I am interested. If I don't like it, a Cabalista probably will. Tom A.

12-25-2003, 08:14 PM	#7
Frank H User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: N. FL Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have heard that this is a "Must go to event"--does anyone know the dates and place? Happy Holidays to all-its been a fun first year for me in the Luger Forum! Thanks to everyone for their coments.

12-27-2003, 10:31 AM	#8
Frank H User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: N. FL Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Never mind-I found my answer after a little more finger tapping.

12-29-2003, 08:36 PM	#10
luger11 User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 149 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi and thanks for your interest. In answer to your question The I.S.B. mark is proper and not all guns that were unit marked were issued a property number. technically it is a 1904 but in collector terms it is classified as an 1906.And to your statement now you know where "all" the Navys are you are incorrect this is seven of the 20 navys I own and between T.A, D.S and myself we have over 60 navys in our combined collection.

12-30-2003, 01:10 PM	#11
karmast User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thank you for your answer. I am really looking forward to see more pics like the one here in this thread. Congrats!!! __________________ Every Luger tells a story - but you have to find out what it says..

12-30-2003, 04:20 PM	#12
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Karmast, Spend a load of Euros and come to Chattanooger this summer and you can see and fondle Navy Loogers as well as all of their accessories and ancillary equipment, such as M1911 Boarding Cutlasses. Tom A.

01-01-2004, 06:31 PM	#13
karmast User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	@Tom A: Thank you very much, that really sounds great, though it will not happen this year due to private reasons.. but I would really enjoy the visit there. It must be a great experience!! Maybe it will be better next year? is it a meeting once in the year? __________________ Every Luger tells a story - but you have to find out what it says..

01-01-2004, 07:58 PM	#14
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Hi again Karmast, The Chattanooga show is an annual NAPCA event. Tom A

01-03-2004, 12:31 PM	#15
karmast User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you, Tom A!! __________________ Every Luger tells a story - but you have to find out what it says..