1912 Erfurt

gelotti · 09-27-2011, 03:58 AM

I have a question concerning a 1912 Erfurt. The pistol has no hold-open, no stock lug, all parts matching and the (4) proof marks are as usual on the right side .Was this a military or civilian luger and why ?
Thanks

alanint · 09-27-2011, 05:58 AM

All Erfurts are military, as Erfurt was a Royal Armory. The reason there is no stock lug or hold open on your gun is that your pistol is early enough that those features were not yet adopted. Most guns did later receive the hold open, installed retroactively, but yours escaped this upgrade, making it a little more desirable.

Some photos would be great!

Norme · 09-27-2011, 08:47 AM

Hi John, With few exceptions, the only early military Lugers that did not have hold-opens retro fitted (like yours), were those issued to Bavarian units. Does yours have a unit mark on it's front grip strap? Regards, Norm

gelotti · 09-27-2011, 10:00 AM

Hi Norm,
There is no unit mark on it's front grip strap.
Regards,John

09-27-2011, 03:58 AM	#1
gelotti User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1912 Erfurt I have a question concerning a 1912 Erfurt. The pistol has no hold-open, no stock lug, all parts matching and the (4) proof marks are as usual on the right side .Was this a military or civilian luger and why ? Thanks

09-27-2011, 05:58 AM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	All Erfurts are military, as Erfurt was a Royal Armory. The reason there is no stock lug or hold open on your gun is that your pistol is early enough that those features were not yet adopted. Most guns did later receive the hold open, installed retroactively, but yours escaped this upgrade, making it a little more desirable. Some photos would be great!

09-27-2011, 08:47 AM	#3
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Hi John, With few exceptions, the only early military Lugers that did not have hold-opens retro fitted (like yours), were those issued to Bavarian units. Does yours have a unit mark on it's front grip strap? Regards, Norm

09-27-2011, 10:00 AM	#4
gelotti User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Norm, There is no unit mark on it's front grip strap. Regards,John