Help on appraisal

BMW · 01-27-2006, 12:40 AM

I have this Luger and am not sure of it's worth. Any help would be appreciated. It has some pitting and was reblued at one time.

Edward Tinker · 01-27-2006, 12:42 AM

Al, welcome to the forum!

The artillery, being reblued is worth from $600-$900, depending on the day and who wanted one. The snail magaizne is worth more than that, $900-$1500, again, depending on originality, if it works, etc.

Ed

Lugerlover · 01-27-2006, 01:38 AM

Al,
Your trommelmagazine is different than any that I have seen. Do you see any manufacturers markings or military proof marks on it? The numbers are considerably smaller than those on my Bing manufactured model. I think that Ed is right on the money as far as the Artillery Luger value is concerned.
Welcome to the forum.
Bill

BMW · 02-07-2006, 01:24 AM

Bill...there are not any other markings on the magazine that I can see. Any idea what it is?

George Anderson · 02-07-2006, 07:40 AM

Al, your Trommelmagazin is strange. The serial number is far too low for a type III made by Bing. Some details of the construction are a bit odd such as the three crimps on the rib that runs the length of the throat of the magazine and the location and placement of the serial number on the face of the drum.

The best quick discovery of your mags authenticity is to weigh it. An accurate weight will reveal whether it has real "guts" or is just a shell.

One last observation I can make is that the loading arm appears to be locked in the load position. If it is a real TM08, the spring may be seriously weakened if in this position too long.

BMW · 02-07-2006, 10:19 AM

Thanks for the reply George. I just used my (cheap) kitchen scale and it weighs about 13-14 ounces.

George Anderson · 02-07-2006, 11:06 AM

Al, it should weigh about twenty-five ounces so yours is probably a copy.

BMW · 02-07-2006, 11:43 AM

Thanks again George. Any idea what something like this might be worth?

George Anderson · 02-07-2006, 01:07 PM

Al, if it is indeed a copy, it could be sold as such on Ebay where you will get the highest price. My guess is about $200.

01-27-2006, 12:40 AM	#1
BMW User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help on appraisal I have this Luger and am not sure of it's worth. Any help would be appreciated. It has some pitting and was reblued at one time.

01-27-2006, 12:42 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,912 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Al, welcome to the forum! The artillery, being reblued is worth from $600-$900, depending on the day and who wanted one. The snail magaizne is worth more than that, $900-$1500, again, depending on originality, if it works, etc. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-27-2006, 01:38 AM	#3
Lugerlover User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 78 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Al, Your trommelmagazine is different than any that I have seen. Do you see any manufacturers markings or military proof marks on it? The numbers are considerably smaller than those on my Bing manufactured model. I think that Ed is right on the money as far as the Artillery Luger value is concerned. Welcome to the forum. Bill

02-07-2006, 01:24 AM	#4
BMW User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bill...there are not any other markings on the magazine that I can see. Any idea what it is?

02-07-2006, 07:40 AM	#5
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,772 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Al, your Trommelmagazin is strange. The serial number is far too low for a type III made by Bing. Some details of the construction are a bit odd such as the three crimps on the rib that runs the length of the throat of the magazine and the location and placement of the serial number on the face of the drum. The best quick discovery of your mags authenticity is to weigh it. An accurate weight will reveal whether it has real "guts" or is just a shell. One last observation I can make is that the loading arm appears to be locked in the load position. If it is a real TM08, the spring may be seriously weakened if in this position too long.

02-07-2006, 10:19 AM	#6
BMW User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the reply George. I just used my (cheap) kitchen scale and it weighs about 13-14 ounces.

02-07-2006, 11:06 AM	#7
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,772 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Al, it should weigh about twenty-five ounces so yours is probably a copy.

02-07-2006, 11:43 AM	#8
BMW User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks again George. Any idea what something like this might be worth?

02-07-2006, 01:07 PM	#9
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,772 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Al, if it is indeed a copy, it could be sold as such on Ebay where you will get the highest price. My guess is about $200.