Luger " Sport "

pors12 · 07-21-2013, 10:41 AM

Hi,

Like to Show my new P08 shooter .

Some pics.

regards

Otto

Edward Tinker · 07-21-2013, 10:43 AM

I love it - shame you'd have to request an exemption here in the USA

pors12 · 07-21-2013, 10:49 AM

Hi,

Why an exemption ?

regards

Edward Tinker · 07-21-2013, 11:02 AM

because stocks on handguns is not allowed, unless you get it registered as a 'short barreled rifle"

Neil Young · 07-21-2013, 11:18 AM

That's really a beauty. Did you build it?

pors12 · 07-21-2013, 11:23 AM

Hi,

I just did the stock, the luger is an old rework
from the 1990´s by a gunsmith from Germany.
I bought the gun some weeks ago on egun .

regards

Otto

skeeter4206 · 07-21-2013, 11:53 AM

Quote:

I love it - shame you'd have to request an exemption here in the USA

Funny another luger with a stock would come up.

Ben M. · 07-21-2013, 12:05 PM

nice arro grips. nice to see them and not just in a magazine. le luger un pistole de legende has them shown page 76

are they easy to buy in germany? i do not see them in the usa.

pors12 · 07-21-2013, 12:38 PM

Sometimes you can find them on egun ...
They came with this luger.

rhuff · 07-21-2013, 07:40 PM

I like it a lot, and bet that it is a real good shooter. It is such a shame that we can't have something like that without all of the hassle and paperwork, but it is what it is. It is much worse in other parts of this World.

lfid · 07-22-2013, 02:57 AM

really cool - creative application of the luger lanyard loop !!!

arro grips really cool also

what sort of rear sight does this one have ? soldered on or dovetailed or ?
could you post closeups of the rear sight ?

silver finish chromoly ?

thanks for posting pictures !!!
Bill

pors12 · 07-22-2013, 04:32 AM

Hi Bill,

Here is a pic of the rear sight.

I am not happy with it, because it is a design to shoot
without the stock. I think I will put a tang sight on it with
a small hole ( about 1.5 mm), then it will work
perfect with the stock. Otherwise a reddot would be nice too .

The finish of the luger is sand blasted and chromed.

The stock is made out of 7075 alloy and just polished.

regards

Otto

alanint · 07-22-2013, 04:40 AM

Is your stock actually gripping the lanyard loop or does it merely slide over it for support?

lfid · 07-22-2013, 05:14 AM

Otto,

have you had any problems with the rear sight loosening up ? is it anchored only with the set screw ? or soldered or pinned etc ?

I suspect a red dot on the same location would not survive very long

any reason why the sideplate is not also chromed ?

again very creative and cool !
Bill

pors12 · 07-22-2013, 06:49 AM

The stock just slides into the lanyard Loop, just to
support it.

There is no Problem with the rear sight it is secured
with the bolt and some green loctite.It fit´s very tight
into a cut out area in front of the original rear sight.

I also have a chromed sideplate for the luger, but
I just like it better with the black one.

mrerick · 07-22-2013, 09:32 AM

I think that this is truly inspired. Beautiful work and concept.

Marc

lfid · 07-22-2013, 06:12 PM

Otto
thanks !!! for the added rear sight info

how did you machine the inset toggle area for the bottom side rear sight base ? usually these rear toggles are very hardened and resist typical machining efforts

how deep did you machine the base area into the toggle ? great idea I dont recall seeing anywhere else

I can see where the inset area for the base would help a lot to handle the rearward setback forces and apparently the bolt is high strength to handle the vertical setback when the rear toggle ears contact the frame - and apparently remaining toggle flat is thick enough to survive ok

maybe on your setup the toggle slap onto rear frame is mild or toggle stop occurs with the compressed spring ?

does your custom barrel weight require any handloading special ammo ?

thanks
Bill

pors12 · 07-23-2013, 12:23 AM

I use 124 grs Hornady RN and 4.8 grs. 3N37, works good
on this luger. The gentleman who sold me this luger
had good experience with geco 124 grs. ammo.

In our days it is possible to cut hardend steel up to 60 HRc.
You need a good endmill and a rigid machine tool.
To cut hard steel "Kobelco" -Tools work really well.

I am operating a Mori Seiki milling machine to cut hard steel.
The stock was made on a Fanuc Robomill.

regards

Otto

lfid · 07-23-2013, 06:10 AM

Otto,
thanks for added info !!!
Bill

pors12 · 08-01-2013, 08:13 AM

Hello,

Made this one for a friend.

I thought it may be of interest, so I took some
pics of this stock, before I put it in the box to ship it.

best regards

Otto

07-21-2013, 10:41 AM	#1
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	Luger " Sport " Hi, Like to Show my new P08 shooter . Some pics. regards Otto Attached Thumbnails

07-21-2013, 11:02 AM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,912 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	because stocks on handguns is not allowed, unless you get it registered as a 'short barreled rifle" __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-21-2013, 11:18 AM	#5
Neil Young Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Scottsboro, Alabama Posts: 540 Thanks: 546 Thanked 438 Times in 165 Posts	That's really a beauty. Did you build it? __________________ Neil The hurrier I go the behinder I get. Sometimes it takes me all day to get nothing done.

07-22-2013, 04:32 AM	#12
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	Hi Bill, Here is a pic of the rear sight. I am not happy with it, because it is a design to shoot without the stock. I think I will put a tang sight on it with a small hole ( about 1.5 mm), then it will work perfect with the stock. Otherwise a reddot would be nice too . The finish of the luger is sand blasted and chromed. The stock is made out of 7075 alloy and just polished. regards Otto Attached Thumbnails

07-22-2013, 06:49 AM	#15
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	The stock just slides into the lanyard Loop, just to support it. There is no Problem with the rear sight it is secured with the bolt and some green loctite.It fit´s very tight into a cut out area in front of the original rear sight. I also have a chromed sideplate for the luger, but I just like it better with the black one. Attached Thumbnails

07-21-2013, 10:43 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,912 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	I love it - shame you'd have to request an exemption here in the USA

07-21-2013, 10:49 AM	#3
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	Hi, Why an exemption ? regards

07-21-2013, 11:23 AM	#6
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	Hi, I just did the stock, the luger is an old rework from the 1990´s by a gunsmith from Germany. I bought the gun some weeks ago on egun . regards Otto

07-21-2013, 12:05 PM	#8
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 476 Thanks: 83 Thanked 117 Times in 79 Posts	nice arro grips. nice to see them and not just in a magazine. le luger un pistole de legende has them shown page 76 are they easy to buy in germany? i do not see them in the usa.

07-21-2013, 12:38 PM	#9
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	Sometimes you can find them on egun ... They came with this luger.

07-21-2013, 07:40 PM	#10
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,272 Thanks: 2,692 Thanked 959 Times in 705 Posts	I like it a lot, and bet that it is a real good shooter. It is such a shame that we can't have something like that without all of the hassle and paperwork, but it is what it is. It is much worse in other parts of this World.

07-22-2013, 02:57 AM	#11
lfid Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wichita, KS USA Posts: 453 Thanks: 573 Thanked 96 Times in 53 Posts	really cool - creative application of the luger lanyard loop !!! arro grips really cool also what sort of rear sight does this one have ? soldered on or dovetailed or ? could you post closeups of the rear sight ? silver finish chromoly ? thanks for posting pictures !!! Bill

07-22-2013, 04:40 AM	#13
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Is your stock actually gripping the lanyard loop or does it merely slide over it for support?

07-22-2013, 05:14 AM	#14
lfid Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wichita, KS USA Posts: 453 Thanks: 573 Thanked 96 Times in 53 Posts	Otto, have you had any problems with the rear sight loosening up ? is it anchored only with the set screw ? or soldered or pinned etc ? I suspect a red dot on the same location would not survive very long any reason why the sideplate is not also chromed ? again very creative and cool ! Bill

07-22-2013, 09:32 AM	#16
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	I think that this is truly inspired. Beautiful work and concept. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

07-22-2013, 06:12 PM	#17
lfid Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wichita, KS USA Posts: 453 Thanks: 573 Thanked 96 Times in 53 Posts	Otto thanks !!! for the added rear sight info how did you machine the inset toggle area for the bottom side rear sight base ? usually these rear toggles are very hardened and resist typical machining efforts how deep did you machine the base area into the toggle ? great idea I dont recall seeing anywhere else I can see where the inset area for the base would help a lot to handle the rearward setback forces and apparently the bolt is high strength to handle the vertical setback when the rear toggle ears contact the frame - and apparently remaining toggle flat is thick enough to survive ok maybe on your setup the toggle slap onto rear frame is mild or toggle stop occurs with the compressed spring ? does your custom barrel weight require any handloading special ammo ? thanks Bill

07-23-2013, 12:23 AM	#18
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	I use 124 grs Hornady RN and 4.8 grs. 3N37, works good on this luger. The gentleman who sold me this luger had good experience with geco 124 grs. ammo. In our days it is possible to cut hardend steel up to 60 HRc. You need a good endmill and a rigid machine tool. To cut hard steel "Kobelco" -Tools work really well. I am operating a Mori Seiki milling machine to cut hard steel. The stock was made on a Fanuc Robomill. regards Otto Attached Thumbnails

07-23-2013, 06:10 AM	#19
lfid Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wichita, KS USA Posts: 453 Thanks: 573 Thanked 96 Times in 53 Posts	Otto, thanks for added info !!! Bill

08-01-2013, 08:13 AM	#20
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	Minor Update Hello, Made this one for a friend. I thought it may be of interest, so I took some pics of this stock, before I put it in the box to ship it. best regards Otto Attached Thumbnails