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John Sabato · 12-19-2001, 12:43 PM

a lot closer to $2000 or better...

I just can't stretch that far with all that is currently going on in my family. I will have to settle for the photo for my collection... sigh!

-John

Milt Keller · 12-19-2001, 07:18 PM

Hey, my friend, I DO understand!

Merry Christmas.

Milt

Big Norm · 12-19-2001, 10:33 PM

John,

it might go for more because it also has dust covers.

The only thing missing is the leather holster.

Big Norm

12-19-2001, 10:53 PM

John....the longer of the two pieces is the dust cover the shorter piece is the machine gun adaptor...this "rig" will surley fetch 1800 plus........Leo

Big Norm · 12-20-2001, 12:46 AM

Leo,

$1300 with five days to go! This thing will fly past $1800. Who is this masked man "P08"? He is always putting his nose in where I belong. My brother has the full rig (with holster) and he won't sell it to me for anything. I told him that I put him in my will but that didn't help.

Big Norm

John Sabato · 12-20-2001, 08:53 AM

Since I read somewhere that there was only one loader for every 6 or so magazines?

I'll bet this combo tops $2250 at auction... certainly no cooler heads will prevail...

-John

Johnny Peppers · 12-20-2001, 09:49 AM

Maybe he just means both halves of the magazine, although I can't ever recall seeing one that was mismatched.

Big Norm · 12-20-2001, 01:20 PM

There is a nice picture in THE LUGER BOOK by Walter pg 272. Also see Jan Stills, Imperial Lugers, Pages 110 and 115-6. The best pictures, though, are in Kenyons, Lugers At Random, pages 398 and 399. My experience with these things is that the snail drum dust cover is often missing and the MP.18 adapter is impossible to find. The snail drum is often confused with a Japanese snail drum possibly for the Nambu. They look very simular and I don't think that they are interchangable with the Luger. A nice snail drum alone will go in the area of $900 to $1200 depending on condition. The loader alone will go in the area of $750 to $850. I don't have an idea about the adapter or the dust cover separately. Owners may have discarded them over the years not knowing what they were. The leather holsters are also impossible to find as are the canvas carriers.

From the picture on AA and no e-mails I would say that this set looks in nice condition and cool heads will NOT prevail. I just hope that the buyer is not from a state like Kalifornia where these drums are definately illegal.

Aaron · 12-20-2001, 02:22 PM

12-20-2001, 05:54 PM

Hi Norm......Po8 has put his nose into some of my bussiness also....in refrence to some of the other ques. I have seen missmatched numbered drums, they are numbered front and back, the loaders are not serial numbered they are marked B/N dust covers bring 125 and the mach. gun adap. will bring 100 easily.I am watching this closely as I have three of them........just think I could sell them and purchase a Iron Cross Luger as advertised

John Sabato · 12-20-2001, 05:56 PM

If you have 3 of them, you should be able to afford TWO Iron Cross Lugers!

Daniel · 12-20-2001, 07:17 PM

On all my snail drum mags, the only numbers are on the front and back..and matching.The dust covers have no serial numbers on them. The drum loader is proofed and no number.

Johnny Peppers · 12-20-2001, 09:50 PM

If we are to believe that the serial numbers we see on the trommel magazines are a true representation of the actual number produced, where did they all go? According to known serial numbers on the magazines, there should be almost 4 magazines to every LP08. While the magazines are not rare, they are scarce and are not seen with anything like the frequency of the LP08's. While all were not used with the LP08, this should have nothing to do with their scarcity.

12-20-2001, 10:32 PM

Good point Johnny......my type one one is 4 didget and both the type 2s are 6 didget.

12-21-2001, 11:47 AM

Big Norm et al, I do have a couple of original MP18 MG adapters available for the snail drum @$75 each. CMR in our resouces section offer an excellent copy of the fabric snail drum carrier for around $100. Tom h

12-19-2001, 12:43 PM	#1
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	For the Artillery Luger buffs in the crowd... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	I'll keep an eye on it Milt, but I am sure this one will close a lot closer to $2000 or better... I just can't stretch that far with all that is currently going on in my family. I will have to settle for the photo for my collection... sigh! -John

12-19-2001, 07:18 PM	#4
Milt Keller User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 191 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: I'll keep an eye on it Milt, but I am sure this one will close Hey, my friend, I DO understand! Merry Christmas. Milt

12-19-2001, 10:33 PM	#5
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	More than that John, it might go for more because it also has dust covers. The only thing missing is the leather holster. Big Norm

12-19-2001, 10:53 PM	#6
Leo Guest Posts: n/a	Re: More than that John....the longer of the two pieces is the dust cover the shorter piece is the machine gun adaptor...this "rig" will surley fetch 1800 plus........Leo

12-20-2001, 12:46 AM	#7
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: More than that Leo, $1300 with five days to go! This thing will fly past $1800. Who is this masked man "P08"? He is always putting his nose in where I belong. My brother has the full rig (with holster) and he won't sell it to me for anything. I told him that I put him in my will but that didn't help. Big Norm

12-20-2001, 08:53 AM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	The owner claims matching numbers, but how is that possible? Since I read somewhere that there was only one loader for every 6 or so magazines? I'll bet this combo tops $2250 at auction... certainly no cooler heads will prevail... -John

12-20-2001, 09:49 AM	#9
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: The owner claims matching numbers, but how is that possible? Maybe he just means both halves of the magazine, although I can't ever recall seeing one that was mismatched.

12-20-2001, 01:20 PM	#10
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: The owner claims matching numbers, but how is that possible? There is a nice picture in THE LUGER BOOK by Walter pg 272. Also see Jan Stills, Imperial Lugers, Pages 110 and 115-6. The best pictures, though, are in Kenyons, Lugers At Random, pages 398 and 399. My experience with these things is that the snail drum dust cover is often missing and the MP.18 adapter is impossible to find. The snail drum is often confused with a Japanese snail drum possibly for the Nambu. They look very simular and I don't think that they are interchangable with the Luger. A nice snail drum alone will go in the area of $900 to $1200 depending on condition. The loader alone will go in the area of $750 to $850. I don't have an idea about the adapter or the dust cover separately. Owners may have discarded them over the years not knowing what they were. The leather holsters are also impossible to find as are the canvas carriers. From the picture on AA and no e-mails I would say that this set looks in nice condition and cool heads will NOT prevail. I just hope that the buyer is not from a state like Kalifornia where these drums are definately illegal.

12-20-2001, 02:22 PM	#11
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	My guess is $2785 (EOM)

12-20-2001, 05:54 PM	#12
Leo Guest Posts: n/a	Re: More than that Hi Norm......Po8 has put his nose into some of my bussiness also....in refrence to some of the other ques. I have seen missmatched numbered drums, they are numbered front and back, the loaders are not serial numbered they are marked B/N dust covers bring 125 and the mach. gun adap. will bring 100 easily.I am watching this closely as I have three of them........just think I could sell them and purchase a Iron Cross Luger as advertised

12-20-2001, 05:56 PM	#13
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Very FUNNY Leo! If you have 3 of them, you should be able to afford TWO Iron Cross Lugers!

12-20-2001, 07:17 PM	#14
Daniel User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ct. and Ma. Posts: 152 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The owner claims matching numbers, but how is that possible? On all my snail drum mags, the only numbers are on the front and back..and matching.The dust covers have no serial numbers on them. The drum loader is proofed and no number.

12-20-2001, 09:50 PM	#15
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Trommel Magazines If we are to believe that the serial numbers we see on the trommel magazines are a true representation of the actual number produced, where did they all go? According to known serial numbers on the magazines, there should be almost 4 magazines to every LP08. While the magazines are not rare, they are scarce and are not seen with anything like the frequency of the LP08's. While all were not used with the LP08, this should have nothing to do with their scarcity.

12-20-2001, 10:32 PM	#16
Leo Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Trommel Magazines Good point Johnny......my type one one is 4 didget and both the type 2s are 6 didget.

12-21-2001, 11:47 AM	#17
tom h Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The owner claims matching numbers, but how is that possible? Big Norm et al, I do have a couple of original MP18 MG adapters available for the snail drum @$75 each. CMR in our resouces section offer an excellent copy of the fabric snail drum carrier for around $100. Tom h