Yet another request for ID....

[josephny]

Yes, just inhereted 2 Lugers and have spent hours trying to decipher the volumes of info on this site. I suspect it will take much more time.

In the meantime, could someone help me ID exactly what I have?

I'll post pics of one of them to get started.

Thanks,

Joseph

[Ron Smith]

Joseph, Get the photos posted. You will be suprised at the avalanche of information you'll get.
Ron

[Ron Smith]

OOPS! Had a hiccup...

[josephny]

Oops from me -- here's the pics.

Thanks very much!

[drbuster]

Let me be the first to jump in. First, I see pictures of just one luger. Will photos of the second one be forthcoming? The pictured piece is a relatively common (135,700 made, according to Jan Still)Mauser WW2 military piece. Serial number range is said to be 7700z to 7000n. Navy versions are much rarer and have "O" or "N" stamped on the grip strap. Hope this helps as a starter.

[josephny]

Thanks very much for the assessment.

The other one will be up in several days.

The serial number, however, is below the botto limit of the range stated, if I understand the range.

[Dwight Gruber]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by josephny:
<strong>The serial number, however, is below the bottom limit of the range stated, if I understand the range.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Josephny,

The accuracy of the "range" depends on the Luger under discussion. There are many Lugers produced under contract for foreign militaries, and very often they will have their own documented serial# ranges, or documentation of the regular serial range they came from.

Others, particularly (but not only) German WWI and WWII military Lugers, are much less well documented in regards to production numbers and serial# ranges, because the documentation is not available or destroyed. In these cases the number ranges are based on observed or reported guns.

The books with the really comprehensive statistics which are the published sources for most of our general knowledge on this subject, are between 10 and 35 years old. As the WWII Veterans who are the repositories of vast numbers of Lugers pass on and their guns become known in collecting circles for the first time, new data becomes available to augment the older published figures. In addition, the internet facilitates the rapid transmission of this data.

So, having a Luger which is "out of" some particular range is not necessarily a problem, it is instead adding to and refining the body of knowledge already in our posession.

--Dwight

[policeluger]

For a starter guys, this is a police gun, a very clean police gun in need of more details from the owner.

[SteveM]

More to the point, from what I have seen, it is a military code meant for the army, but was diverted to the police. A rarer variation than the banner police models.

Need more pics.......

SteveM

[josephny]

It's getting interesting.

I'll post more pics this week, of this and the other one (1918).

How do we know it's a polic gun, originally meant for the army?

[Edward Tinker]

In 1933 it was decided that sear safeties should be placed on police guns, not on army guns.

This is your police sear safety;


Good eye, as usual Howard <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

[josephny]

Wow, again, how interesting.

I broke that piece last week while taking it apart/putting it back together (yes, I am embarrassed to admit this). I found a replacement (I hope) and now have to find a gunsmith who can do the right job.

That's why I have just what you see available to take pics of at this time.

I thought that this was sear spring -- is that part of the sear safety?

Is the expert's here position that this gun is too valuable/fragile/rare/tricky/whathaveyou to use, or should I feel free to enjoy shooting them as well as collecting?

Thanks!

[policeluger]

You sort of answered your own question, just a second of mishandling and a very collectable gun could have been runied, this is a collectable item, breaking a part in firing and you will hurt is value, this gun belongs in a collection, not at the range. Well my two cents worth anyway. I run a full time gun smith business, and can replace/repair the part and no need to send entire gun and pay high overnight shipping, send me your email address if interested.

[G.T.]

Hi Joseph! You absolutly cannot go wrong with this fellow! He will take care of you 100% in the most correct order possible!! best to you, til...lat'r...GT <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" />

[josephny]

G.T. -- Thanks, that's nice to hear.

Judging from the history of interaction on this board, I came to the same conclusion.

[josephny]

policeluger -- I've sent you a private message.

[josephny]

I've spent the past couple of weeks trying to find the sear safety spring, but cannot.

Does anyone know where I can find one?

Thank you,

Joseph

[Pete Ebbink]

Hi Joseph,

Did you try LF member, LugerDoc (aka Tom Heller) for the sear safety...?

hellerarms@webtv.net

Regards,

Pete <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />