Sturmgeweher44

zeke1312 · 11-14-2005, 11:43 PM

What is the availability of this weapon? What are market prices?

John Sabato · 11-15-2005, 08:53 AM

This is a rather rare item that is Class 3 (Full Auto)... for that reason there are not many of them. I suggest you visit Subguns.com and Biggerhammer.net for this type of item. That is where the Class 3 community congregates. If I had to guess what a legal Sturmgewehr 44 price was, I would guess between $10,000 and $20,000 (yes that is THOUSAND) dollars...

BTW, I see that you are an ex-Nike Nuke vet. I served two years as the Communications Site Chief at Ceggia, Italy 1986-1988 operating the Cemetery Net in support of the 34th USAAD... I retired right after they rotated out our Nukes prior to deactivation of our site...

Ron Wood · 11-15-2005, 10:04 AM

NIKE Hercules - still has to be considered one of the most accurate missile systems ever developed, capable of clearing out about a cubic mile of airspace with one missile. Thank goodness it was never called upon to do that, but it sure deterred the bad guys from doing something foolish like launching a mass attack on the US or its allies. I started out as a fire control maintenance man during the last phase of the transition from Ajax to Hercules. After that, I commanded a custodial team, was a battery commander and a Bn S-3. I really liked that system.

stymie · 11-15-2005, 05:01 PM

This example is fairly typical:

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nf...cgi?read=65738

NFA Market Board

WTS: MP-44 STURMGEWEHR 19K

Posted By: Idan Greenberg in Phoenix, Arizona idangreenberg@msn.com (65.200.16.246)
Date: 10/27/05 14:28

WTS: MP-44 $19000, REALLY NICE CONDITION, ALL MATCHING, NEVER CUT OR WELDED STURMGEWEHR WITH 1 MAGAZINE & SLING. EXTRA MAGS, PARTS KIT (FROM EX.COND.GUN) & POST-WAR AMMO AVAILABLE AT ADDITIONAL COST ONLY TO THE PURCHASER OF THE GUN. THIS GREAT EXAMPLE OF A STURMGEWEHR HAS BEEN IN MY COLLECTION FOR OVER 10 YEARS AND IS ON A FORM 3 IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA.

IF SERIOUSLY INTERESTED CALL 602-329-1665, 9AM-10PM PACIFIC TIME.

Edward Tinker · 11-15-2005, 05:14 PM

John, not bad in pricing, but if I was on antique roadshow, they would say, between 16-20 K

not 10K diff!

Curly1 · 11-15-2005, 10:23 PM

At the last gunshow here in september they had one with a curved barrel for shooting around corners on display.

http://www.gunsworld.com/mgp/mp44.html

zeke1312 · 11-16-2005, 12:19 AM

Wow! The price must be indicative of this weapons availability, its place in history.

Yes, I was stationed on Nike Ajax (NJ) and Nike Herc(Nebraska) between 1960 and 1966. Was an IFC operator, then trained on FUIF maintenance, then ABAR maint. at Ft Bliss. Liked to work on the ABAR radar! FUIF was great to troubleshoot!

zeke1312 · 11-16-2005, 12:35 AM

I should have mentioned, ed-thelen.org is dedicated to the Nike program and has tons of stuff. Recognized by several other sites as the best Nike info on the internet.

Steven Michaels · 11-16-2005, 01:58 AM

Actually much of the price has to do with gun control laws passed in 1968 and 1986. Due mostly to the latter law, M16 rifles by any maker (never mind colt) are over $10,000, and even the MAC SMG's are around $3,000+.

Kolos · 11-16-2005, 05:07 AM

Ok, we have some MP-44 STURMGEWEHR here at Ukraine. The price is from 6.000$ to 8.000$. Due to the gun control law Ã¢?? the barrel is drilled (so for collectors only) . Condition of all carbines is NEW from warehouse.

minigun · 11-16-2005, 10:44 AM

These guns are just my favorites.....I've always had a fondness for them.

11-14-2005, 11:43 PM	#1
zeke1312 User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Sturmgeweher44 What is the availability of this weapon? What are market prices?

11-15-2005, 08:53 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	This is a rather rare item that is Class 3 (Full Auto)... for that reason there are not many of them. I suggest you visit Subguns.com and Biggerhammer.net for this type of item. That is where the Class 3 community congregates. If I had to guess what a legal Sturmgewehr 44 price was, I would guess between $10,000 and $20,000 (yes that is THOUSAND) dollars... BTW, I see that you are an ex-Nike Nuke vet. I served two years as the Communications Site Chief at Ceggia, Italy 1986-1988 operating the Cemetery Net in support of the 34th USAAD... I retired right after they rotated out our Nukes prior to deactivation of our site... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-15-2005, 10:04 AM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,090 Times in 1,675 Posts	NIKE Hercules - still has to be considered one of the most accurate missile systems ever developed, capable of clearing out about a cubic mile of airspace with one missile. Thank goodness it was never called upon to do that, but it sure deterred the bad guys from doing something foolish like launching a mass attack on the US or its allies. I started out as a fire control maintenance man during the last phase of the transition from Ajax to Hercules. After that, I commanded a custodial team, was a battery commander and a Bn S-3. I really liked that system. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

11-15-2005, 05:01 PM	#4
stymie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: KC,MO USA Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	This example is fairly typical: http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nf...cgi?read=65738 NFA Market Board WTS: MP-44 STURMGEWEHR 19K Posted By: Idan Greenberg in Phoenix, Arizona idangreenberg@msn.com (65.200.16.246) Date: 10/27/05 14:28 WTS: MP-44 $19000, REALLY NICE CONDITION, ALL MATCHING, NEVER CUT OR WELDED STURMGEWEHR WITH 1 MAGAZINE & SLING. EXTRA MAGS, PARTS KIT (FROM EX.COND.GUN) & POST-WAR AMMO AVAILABLE AT ADDITIONAL COST ONLY TO THE PURCHASER OF THE GUN. THIS GREAT EXAMPLE OF A STURMGEWEHR HAS BEEN IN MY COLLECTION FOR OVER 10 YEARS AND IS ON A FORM 3 IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA. IF SERIOUSLY INTERESTED CALL 602-329-1665, 9AM-10PM PACIFIC TIME. __________________ "Irony can be pretty ironic!"

11-15-2005, 05:14 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,987 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	John, not bad in pricing, but if I was on antique roadshow, they would say, between 16-20 K not 10K diff! __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-15-2005, 10:23 PM	#6
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,229 Thanks: 111 Thanked 702 Times in 364 Posts	At the last gunshow here in september they had one with a curved barrel for shooting around corners on display. http://www.gunsworld.com/mgp/mp44.html __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

11-16-2005, 12:19 AM	#7
zeke1312 User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Wow! The price must be indicative of this weapons availability, its place in history. Yes, I was stationed on Nike Ajax (NJ) and Nike Herc(Nebraska) between 1960 and 1966. Was an IFC operator, then trained on FUIF maintenance, then ABAR maint. at Ft Bliss. Liked to work on the ABAR radar! FUIF was great to troubleshoot!

11-16-2005, 12:35 AM	#8
zeke1312 User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I should have mentioned, ed-thelen.org is dedicated to the Nike program and has tons of stuff. Recognized by several other sites as the best Nike info on the internet.

11-16-2005, 01:58 AM	#9
Steven Michaels User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Actually much of the price has to do with gun control laws passed in 1968 and 1986. Due mostly to the latter law, M16 rifles by any maker (never mind colt) are over $10,000, and even the MAC SMG's are around $3,000+.

11-16-2005, 05:07 AM	#10
Kolos User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kiev Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok, we have some MP-44 STURMGEWEHR here at Ukraine. The price is from 6.000$ to 8.000$. Due to the gun control law Ã¢?? the barrel is drilled (so for collectors only) . Condition of all carbines is NEW from warehouse.

11-16-2005, 10:44 AM	#11
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 424 Thanks: 15 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	These guns are just my favorites.....I've always had a fondness for them.