1921 dwm

Waa623 · 11-01-2006, 09:04 PM

Hi,
new to forum and have a question
A friend of mine has a dwm luger 1921 dated with a 15 3/4" barrel and regular sights (not ramp artillary) and a matching shoulder stock and a wooden foregrip mounted to barrel of pistol
any help
thanks

John Sabato · 11-01-2006, 09:40 PM

recheck the barrel length... it should be greater than 16" the correct measurement is from the end of the muzzle to the face of the breechblock. Measure it properly by inserting a cleaning rod until it touches the closed breechblock, then mark the rod at the muzzle, then withdraw the rod and measure the length from the mark to the tip...

It sounds like the measurement that you gave is only the exposed part of the barrel. If the barrel is truely 16" then the gun is legal from a federal point of view, but I have no idea what the laws are in NJ regarding stocked pistols. If you have other specific questions, just ask. Photos would be very helpful in identification of the Luger.

Welcome to the Lugerforum.

Aaron · 11-01-2006, 10:03 PM

When you describe the stock as "matched" do you mean it is numbered the same as the gun, or does it just look like a nice match to the gun?

Edward Tinker · 11-01-2006, 10:59 PM

If it is a 1920's commerical barrel, they came in 4, 6, 8, 12, 15 inches (about any size you wanted), so it could be shorter or longer than 16 inches. That said, attaching the stock would not be legal on a short "rifle" of less than 16 inches...

It sounds like a Pacific Arms (or the like) barreled gun.

ed

John Sabato · 11-02-2006, 09:41 AM

Ed, While the possibility of it being a Pacific Arms Luger exists, I think the measurement provided 15 and 3/4" is a pretty clear indicator that it is an aftermarket modern barrel, probably by Numrich. Especially because there is a forearm that attaches directly to the barrel and not to the pistol frame like a carbine...

I am very interested to know what this gun looks like and the actual barrel measurement.

Lugerdoc · 11-02-2006, 09:46 AM

I agree with John that this is most like a current GPC barrel, recently installed on this luger. Sound similar to the one that I have advertised in the For Sales Section under "shoulder stock legal shooter". TH

11-01-2006, 09:04 PM	#1
Waa623 User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 15 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	1921 dwm Hi, new to forum and have a question A friend of mine has a dwm luger 1921 dated with a 15 3/4" barrel and regular sights (not ramp artillary) and a matching shoulder stock and a wooden foregrip mounted to barrel of pistol any help thanks

11-01-2006, 09:40 PM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	recheck the barrel length... it should be greater than 16" the correct measurement is from the end of the muzzle to the face of the breechblock. Measure it properly by inserting a cleaning rod until it touches the closed breechblock, then mark the rod at the muzzle, then withdraw the rod and measure the length from the mark to the tip... It sounds like the measurement that you gave is only the exposed part of the barrel. If the barrel is truely 16" then the gun is legal from a federal point of view, but I have no idea what the laws are in NJ regarding stocked pistols. If you have other specific questions, just ask. Photos would be very helpful in identification of the Luger. Welcome to the Lugerforum. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-01-2006, 10:59 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,987 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	If it is a 1920's commerical barrel, they came in 4, 6, 8, 12, 15 inches (about any size you wanted), so it could be shorter or longer than 16 inches. That said, attaching the stock would not be legal on a short "rifle" of less than 16 inches... It sounds like a Pacific Arms (or the like) barreled gun. ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-02-2006, 09:41 AM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Ed, While the possibility of it being a Pacific Arms Luger exists, I think the measurement provided 15 and 3/4" is a pretty clear indicator that it is an aftermarket modern barrel, probably by Numrich. Especially because there is a forearm that attaches directly to the barrel and not to the pistol frame like a carbine... I am very interested to know what this gun looks like and the actual barrel measurement. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-02-2006, 09:46 AM	#6
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	I agree with John that this is most like a current GPC barrel, recently installed on this luger. Sound similar to the one that I have advertised in the For Sales Section under "shoulder stock legal shooter". TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

11-01-2006, 10:03 PM	#3
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	When you describe the stock as "matched" do you mean it is numbered the same as the gun, or does it just look like a nice match to the gun?